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Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Tailplane - Mod 73
From: Jeremy Davey <europaflyer3@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:43:37
Because then, Tim, you=92ll never remove TP4 for maintenance again... At
least, you won=92t without the need to replace it in its entirety, with 
all
the difficulty of re-drilling accurately for the TP6 pip-pin holes.


Kind regards,

Jeremy


From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ward
Sent: 17 July 2007 11:01
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Tailplane - Mod 73


=EF=BB 

Why don't we get a certified welder to weld TP12 to TP04 to avoid any
torsion stress on TP6 sleeve?

Tim

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----- Original Message ----- 

From: R=C3=A9mi Guerner <mailto:air.guerner@wanadoo.fr>  


Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:11 PM

Subject: Europa-List: Europa Tailplane - Mod 73


Graham and Mike,

I agree. Mod 73 is a very poor fix for a bad design. I like the idea of 
he
single tube with a flange. 

I am also concerned about relying on a single pip pin to secure the tail
plane to the aircraft. As there is no way to visually check that the pip 
pin
is fully engaged and the balls are protruding below TP6, a pull test 
would
be highly  desirable. A special plier would be needed  for that pull 
test.
Alternatively, a big recess on the underside of the tail plane would 
allow
an uneasy  visual inspection with a flashlight. The rear wing pip pin 
can be
checked that way.  Moreover I like the idea of a back up tail plane 
locking
device such as the spring loaded lever. 


Remi Guerner

F-PGKL, XS S/N395 monowheel,  912S, Airmaster, 487 hours  


From: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Tailplane - Mod 73

Mike
I agree with you. A simple redesign would be to make TP5 and 6 one 
single tube, with lightening holes, weld a flange on it that bolts onto 
the inside of the root rib. Relying on a bond between epoxy and 
stainless steel is not sensible. imho
I still wish we knew more about what went wrong with G-HOFC though.
Graham

Mike Parkin wrote:
> <mikenjulie.parkin@btinternet.com>
> 
> Nigel,
> 
> Unpopular as it may be, I think you are right.  Mod 73 strikes me as a 

> very unsatisfactory fix for a poor design.  


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