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Re: Europa-List: What's up with the cost of 914?

Subject: Re: Europa-List: What's up with the cost of 914?
From: Ralph K. Hallett III <n100rh@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 10:34:06

Glenn,
Just for interest sake, where do you fly out of? I will be flying from 
Stead, NV( SD4) where summer density altitudes are 8000+.
Ralph
914 xs mg

glenn crowder wrote:
>    Well, its been a real easy lander for me, and I fly a mono only on 
> hard runways at high
> altitudes.  No ground loops, no "issues".  Weight is identical to most 
> 914 powered monos with
> CS props at 930 lbs.  Too much power is just enough!  Two up in the 
> summertime the 912S powered LSA's around my field are total dogs at 
> this altitude, barely clearing the power lines at the end of the field!
>  
>                                                Glenn
>  
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> From: nwcmc@tiscali.co.uk
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: What's up with the cost of 914?
> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 08:30:20 +0100
>
>
>     It is worth bearing in mind that the Subaru is at least 50lb
>     heavier than the Rotax. This extra weight can be very significant.
>     I know of one Subaru powered Europa that is up to max T/O weight
>     when it is full of fuel with two adults aboard before any baggage
>     has been loaded. This is also one of the reasons the Wilksch
>     diesel has not been successful with the Europa (apart from its
>     slow development).
>
>      
>
>     Heavy engines also give C of G problems. To balance the heavier
>     engine, either the battery needs to be mounted right at the back
>     of the fuselage or lead added. This adds inertia which does tend
>     to make control of the aircraft a little more difficult
>     (particularly relevant for monowheel Europas on hard runways).
>
>      
>
>     Nigel Charles
>
>      
>
>      
>
>      
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>     [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
>     *glenn crowder
>     *Sent:* 04 June 2007 23:06
>     *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
>     *Subject:* RE: Europa-List: What's up with the cost of 914?
>
>      
>
>      Can't help but mention the Soob option.  Sure been a winner for
>     me for five years.
>       Same or better performance than the 914 with half the price.  I
>     did have to adjust
>     the valves once.
>      
>                                                   Glenn
>
>     > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 13:13:57 -0700
>     > From: asarangan@yahoo.com
>     > Subject: Europa-List: What's up with the cost of 914?
>     > To: europa-list@matronics.com
>     >
>     <asarangan@yahoo.com>
>     >
>     >
>     > The last time I checked (which was admittedly four or five year ago),
>     > an uncertified 914 was selling for $18k. Now it is up to almost $30k.
>     > With a hydraulic governor, I am looking at close to $35k. What's up
>     > with the============
>     >
>     >
>     >
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