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Subject: RE: Europa-List: Angle of attack
From: R.C.Harrison <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:42:32

Hi! Paul
I don't suppose Mono is any different to trike but what you are probably
looking for is the same for all aircraft especially the slippery kind. 
Unless I'm mistaken you are probably landing in gusty wind conditions
and unless you get completely reliable steady wind on the nose you will
always get this phenomenon. IMHO you are looking for an impossible "wind
ahead" indicator and lots of us would give a fortune for such an
instrument!
I have a bad habit in coming in low and regularly needing a blast from
the prop to get a hold over the quick sink if the gust drops. You need
to practice dead stick landings from a high aspect on long runways
regulating your speed and therefore the lift and sink from the glide
slope of the a/c.
I say mine is a bad habit because if the "donkey" should decide to "jack
in" with a low approach you have no "blast facility" at your command! 
I'm no specialist and at 600 hours on type still find myself very much
the learner, but I'm sure you must keep the stick in mind as if it were
a one way ratchet never relaxing the rearward pressure and in the event
of a small bounce a quick rearward snatch can take the "pain" out of the
next one.
IMHO by the time you have adjusted because the AOA indicator has told
you, you will have "cocked up".
 Also you must get the aircraft correctly trimmed on "base" with full
flaps down, don't leave it 'till "final". 
I will now sit back and wait for the real specialists to possibly tell
me I'm writing a load of rubbish !

Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300 trike.


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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of paul
atkinson
Subject: Europa-List: Angle of attack

<paul@theatkinsons.demon.co.uk>

From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Angle of Attack

<paul.mcallister@qia.net>

Hi all,

After flying my mono wheel for 340 hours with various C of G's and
weights  
I an
still surprised at how differently the aircraft behaves on landing.

I find that the amount of power needed in the flair can be from very  
little to
quite a lot if I want to bring it over the numbers at 55 knots with not

too much
sink, and although I am getting good at judging the various situations,

occasionally
I still get it wrong and I am rewarded with a bounce on landing.

I was wondering if anyone on the forum has an AoA fitted to their
Europa,  
and are
they finding the lift reserve a good indicator to help get that "perfect

10"
on every touch down ?  If anyone has some experience I would be
interested  
in
hearing from them.

Thanks,

Paul - N378PJ


Paul

I have no experience with the Europa but have some with Aoa. In my case
it  
made no difference at all to the quality of my landings in the vertical

sense :-(.

Where it really helped though was to give the confidence to fly at lower

speeds near the ground. You will find that with a lighter airplane your

approach speed will be lower, giving you a consistent margin above the  
stall which will I hope mean that the airplane will behave more  
consistently from the flare to touchdown. Your touch down point will be

more predictable, and if you touchdown with little or no lift reserve
you  
reduce the chances of bouncing. That was my experience flying an old  
Fokker, and I hope it will apply to my Europa.

Regards

Paul Atkinson



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