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Re: Europa-List: 4 position rocker switches for trim

Subject: Re: Europa-List: 4 position rocker switches for trim
From: Fergus Kyle <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:01:45

The T33 and the Sabre had coolie-hat trim button on the stick and transmit
button on the throckle. The Vampire had the transmit button right beside the
cannons fire button (desparately handy), and the trim button was an 8-inch
wheel under your left elbow. It sometimes came off in your hand...........
Ferg
A064

Original Message -----
From: "James Nelson" <europajim@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: 4 position rocker switches for trim


>
> Jim,
>          I highly recommend your option of having the trim on the stick.
> You don't want to be changing hands on controls etc while trying to do a
> go around.  Your tooooo busy getting it stabilized and going up and gear
> up etc to do anything else.  I used the stick grip with four buttons,
> Chinese hat on top and a trigger type for transmitting.  I works great, I
> can talk to the tower, change trim, change frequency all with out my hand
> leaving the stick. (except for raising the gear).
>
> Jim Nelson
>
>
> >
> > Tony;
> >
> > In the build process, we installed the Ray Allen control stick grip
> > with 4 button
> > switches on top, and the push to talk button on the front of the
> > grip. The fore
> > and aft buttons have the elevator trim. the left and right buttons
> > have the
> > aileron trim.
> >
> > We have almost 500 hr. on this set up and and for me, I would not
> > have it any
> > other way. The ability of being able to trim with my hand on the
> > stick as opposed
> > to using a rocker switch on the panel in turbulence is worth its
> > weight in gold.
> > In a go- around situation re-triming the a/c from landing trim to
> > full power
> > climb, is a matter of holding down a button on the stick, rather
> > than having to
> > move one of my hands to a rocker switch.
> >
> > These are just my thoughts on  this thread....
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Jim Brown
> > N398JB
> >
> > Tony Renshaw wrote:
> >
> > <tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au>
> > >
> > > Dave,
> > > Thanks very much for the advice. I have not heard much positive
> > about the trim
> > > unit. I know it is quite powerful. I do however want to keep my
> > options open as
> > > to what type of stick grip I use. My friend here in Sydney has
> > trim on the
> > > stick, and also pitch on the left/right buttons. I can't get my
> > head around it,
> > > or not at least without much thought. I wish the stick grips came
> > with 2 lots
> > > of button heads in 2 vertical rows. This setup would suit the
> > pitch and the
> > > trim. They obviously could easily do it, as the switchgear is
> > within the grip,
> > > only the position of the holes would have to change, supposing the
> > switchgear
> > > underneath had no conflict. I think I need to give this some more
> > thought. I
> > > recently had Graham Singleton staying with me here in Sydney and
> > he thinks the
> > > stick mounted trim could have been contributory to his accident. I
> > thought
> > > consequently that I would put it on the dash, or at least near the
> > throttle
> > > somewhere. Do you feel the stick is a good place?
> > > Reg
> > > Tony Renshaw
> > >
> > <davedeford@attbi.com>
> > > >
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >> I am thinking about using a multi function rocker switch
> > > >> should I choose to use the MAC Servo Speed Control. I want a
> > > >> switch that if I 1/2 depress it either for nose up or down,
> > > >> well I get 1/2 rate.
> > > >
> > > >If you use pushbutton switches on the stick for trim, you may not
> > want a
> > > >reduced speed mode.  I find the normal speed to be perfect, both
> > for fine
> > > >adjustments and for major changes, using the buttons on a MAC
> > stick grip.
> > > >When using the factory-supplied rocker switch (which we have
> > mounted in the
> > > >panel), it is harder to make small adjustments.
> > > >
> > > >Dave DeFord
> > > >N135TD
> > > >
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