=9Cif we have a plethora of Permit built and operated aircraft
flying / departing / returning under IFR we will inevitably be reading
about its tragic results, I would be devastated to read of such
tragedies in the press.=9D
David, I think this is a bit sensationalistic and flies in the face of
the facts. Pilots in the USA have been able to fly IFR in home built
aircraft for many years and the ground is not littered with smoking
wreckage.
The very understandable comments from the professional pilots in our
community are also not supported by the stats. There are a large number
of (UK) IMC rated pilots flying PA28s, for example, and I think there
has only been two accidents in total since the IMCR was introduced.
Compare this with the number of accidents caused by VFR pilots scud
running.
All of these issues have been fully and professionally examined as part
of the work that has led to the present trials that are taking place.
That is why it has taken 6 years to get to this stage. Any home built
aircraft that is approved for night/IFR will have been through a very
thorough testing process that is at least equivalent to that required
for a certified aircraft.
Regards
Brian Davies
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DAVID JOYCE
Sent: 09 September 2014 10:41
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: LAA/CAA IFR permission on europas
This is a really interesting discussion and I have to say that I am in
total agreement about currency and despite having had an IMC rating for
20+ years do not and will not deliberately fly into IMC conditions as a
matter of open choice, I only ever did the rating to use as a challenge
to improve my flying and as a last chance get out of jail free card.
I concur with Jonathans comments that if we have a plethora of Permit
built and operated aircraft flying / departing / returning under IFR we
will inevitably be reading about its tragic results, I would be
devastated to read of such tragedies in the press.
There are many different standards of build some are stunning some are
dogs, even with the annual permit system they still get through ( I have
to say that the same happens with CAA and EASA aircraft as well). if we
have a plethora of Permit built and operated aircraft flying / departing
/ returning under IFR we will inevitably be reading about its tragic
results, I would be devastated to read of such tragedies in the press.
The other one
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Sent: Monday, 8 September 2014, 23:44
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: LAA/CAA IFR permission on europas
Jonathonthanks for your educated and well-founded
opinionparticularly your emphasis on the importance of true
=9Ccurrency=9D, not just by-the-book
currencysimilar reasoning has kept me in the ranks of VFR
aviatorsF.
On Sep 8, 2014, at 3:07 PM, jonathanmilbank <jdmilbank@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
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> Permit me to annoy you all intensely. After more than four decades of
earning my living as a pilot, military and civilian, and having held a
full instrument rating for over 32 years, wild horses couldn't drag me
and my Europa into IMC or night conditions, even if my aircraft had all
the required bells and whistles.
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> Single-engined in those conditions doesn't seem wise to me, especially
in a glass-fibre airframe in conditions where you can't see and avoid
potential lightning activity.
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> Furthermore procedural instrument flying is a skill where you need to
keep very current. An hour or so each month just isn't going to cut it.
Me and my colleagues find that just a week or two of holiday before
resuming flight operations, puts most pilots (if they're being honest)
somewhat behind the mental drag curve for a day or two after returning
to duty.
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> And we have the advantage of an Airbus suite of EFIS, Flight Directors
and unbeatable automation, plus two pairs of eyes and ears to monitor
the situation.
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> Yes I have also flown IMC in earlier days as single pilot with no
stabilisation nor autoflight systems, doing things like QGH and GCA in
the military. That would make anyone sweat.
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> So have fun if you must and I'll hope not to read of any sad CFIT
stories.
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430200#430200
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