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Re: Europa-List: Europa or Stainless Steel Control Cable

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa or Stainless Steel Control Cable
From: Mike Baker <galahav@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 14:59:11
=0A=0A=0A=0ACable swage=0Ahttp://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/advisory_
circulars/index.cfm/go/document.information/documentid/99861=0A=C2-=C2-
=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Mike Baker <galahav@yah
oo.com>=0ATo: "europa-list@matronics.com" <europa-list@matronics.com> =0ASe
nt: Sunday, March 2, 2014 10:55 AM=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Europa or St
ainless Steel Control Cable=0A  =0A=0A=0AMil-DTL-83420 is the general spec 
that describes the requirements flight control cables=0A=C2-Composition A
 - Carbon steel, zinc, or tin over zinc coated=0Asteel cable is stronger an
d stiffer than corrosion resistant steel=0A=0A=0AMIL-DTL-83420/1 - Wire Rop
e, Flexible, Type I, Composition A.=0AM83420/1-005 Indicates - Wire Rope, F
lexible, Type I, Carbon Steel,=0AConstruction; 7 x 19, Nominal Diameter 5/3
2=0A=0AComposition B - Corrosion resistant steel=0AMIL-DTL-83420/2 - Wire R
ope, Flexible, Type I, Composition B.=0AMIL-DTL-781 - Terminal, Wire Rope S
waging, General Specification for.=0A=0Ause this info to find the spec of c
able you have=0Athe nicopress is usable on either. best to ck spec on swagi
ng =0A=0Athe best place I know of for flight control cables is Mcfarlane av
iation (USA) =0Aalso a good source for other "stuff"=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A____
____________________________=0A From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@bti
nternet.com>=0ATo: "europa-list@matronics.com" <europa-list@matronics.com> 
=0ASent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:14 AM=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Europa o
r Stainless Steel Control Cable=0A  =0A=0A=0AYes, stainless was developed f
or yachts, sea water contamination resistant. There isn't much bending in t
he Europa so no worries about fatigue.=0AMust be the multi strand stuff tho
ugh, 7X19 springs to mind but anyway it's fine wire strands for flexibility
.=0AGraham=0A=0AAlso be sure you use the right crimps, plated I think, not 
plain copper. Get a second opinion, I not as young as I once was!=0A=0A=0A
=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrensh
aw268@gmail.com>=0ATo: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>; e
uropa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, 2 March 2014, 6:04=0ASubject: Re:
 Europa-List: Europa or Stainless Steel Control Cable=0A  =0A=0A=0AHi Graha
m,=0AWish I knew if it was what was supplied by Europa. I=99ve had th
e kit too long to know, things have been moved around, and I don=99t 
recall the Europa stuff ever being labelled.=C2-=0AMaybe someone else mig
ht be able to clarify. Worst part is, it looks old even though it mightn
=99t be. It reminds me of a Hills Hoist outside clothes line cable, but 
I think that is more of an Aussie thing. I actually don=99t have enou
gh Nicopress sleeves now so I=99ll need more of those anyway, so I ca
n get some more pretty stuff ;-)=0AYou normally use Stainless Steel cable b
y choice don=99t you??=0ATR=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn 2 Mar 2014, at 10:18 am,
 GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> wrote:=0A=0ATony=0A>I'd 
say go ahead with the galvanised steel cable. It should be fine in Oz, so l
ong as you don't go=C2-=0A>ocean sailing with it!=0A>Graham=0A>=0A>=0A>
=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A>From:=C2-Tony Renshaw
 <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>=0A>To:=C2-europa-list@matronics.com=C2-=0A>
Sent:=C2-Saturday, 1 March 2014, 22:49=0A>Subject:=C2-Europa-List: Euro
pa or Stainless Steel Control Cable=0A>=0A>=0A>--> Europa-List message post
ed by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>=0A>=0A>Gidday,=0A>I have gon
e through my fair share of cable, and consequently I have bits everywhere. 
I have a roll of cable which appears to be galvanised, or really dull Stain
less Steel, which I believe doesn=99t happen. Why have nice shiny Sta
inless, if it stains. So, the best advice I have to figure out what is what
 is to use a magnet. The unknown roll of dull cable I have is extremely att
ractive to the=0A magnet, and the Stainless is only slightly, but still is 
drawn towards the magnet on a really long suspended run, like the length in
=0A the aft fuselage, towards the magnet when it is mm away, but it still a
ttracts it. So, this other roll I can only imagine might have been that sup
plied by Europa, and I wouldn=99t know because this roll has no produ
ct code or numbers on it.=C2-=0A>My question, whilst I=99d prefer t
o use Stainless just because it doesn=99t look like it has been in th
e aircraft for a million years, however the gal cable (or whatever it is) I
 am told is more durable especially in terms of bends. This is a conservati
ve approach from gliders where control cabling can have acute bends, but we
 don=99t have that. So, should I resurrect this roll of cable out of 
my waste bin and use it, or should I replace it with Stainless Steel?=0A>Th
anks for any advice or help, and I appreciate all the help I=99ve got
 with this sofar.=C2-=0A>Regards=0A>Tony=C2-Renshawhttp://forums.matron
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