Pete, My use of the tube, approved by my inspector (in
fact suggested by him) is simply to cover the gap across
the wheel well. It is fixed there with a cable tie and can
readily be slid fore or aft for inspection. Regards, David
(Joyce)
<pjeffers@talktalk.net> wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> Whilst I do not disagree with the advantages of plastic
>tubing being used in this manner, as an inspector who
>each year is required by LAA to certify the condition of
>these cables, I have to add that it is impossible to
>inspect cables that are inside a plastic tube. Those who
>have gone down this route for protection will be aware of
>the work involved in gaining visual access to the entire
>length of cable that lies out of sight.
>
> Pete Jeffers LAA Insp.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: David Joyce
> Sent: Sunday, 2 March 2014 17:48
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>
>
>
>
>
><davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
>
> One tip for those installing rudder cables in a mono is
>to
> run them inside the light plastic tubing (used
>extensively
> in gliders) through the wheel well. It is virtually
> friction free and protects them entirely from damp &
>grit.
> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
>
> Mike Baker <galahav@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Mil-DTL-83420 is the general spec that describes the
>>requirements flight control cables
>> Composition A - Carbon steel, zinc, or tin over zinc
>>coated
>> steel cable is stronger and stiffer than corrosion
>>resistant steel
>>
>> MIL-DTL-83420/1 - Wire Rope, Flexible, Type I,
>>Composition A.
>> M83420/1-005 Indicates - Wire Rope, Flexible, Type I,
>>Carbon Steel,
>> Construction; 7 x 19, Nominal Diameter 5/32
>>
>> Composition B - Corrosion resistant steel
>> MIL-DTL-83420/2 - Wire Rope, Flexible, Type I,
>>Composition B.
>> MIL-DTL-781 - Terminal, Wire Rope Swaging, General
>>Specification for.
>>
>> use this info to find the spec of cable you have
>> the nicopress is usable on either. best to ck spec on
>>swaging
>>
>> the best place I know of for flight control cables is
>>Mcfarlane aviation (USA)
>> also a good source for other "stuff"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>> To: "europa-list@matronics.com"
>><europa-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa or Stainless Steel
>>Control Cable
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, stainless was developed for yachts, sea water
>>contamination resistant. There isn't much bending in the
>>Europa so no worries about fatigue.
>> Must be the multi strand stuff though, 7X19 springs to
>>mind but anyway it's fine wire strands for flexibility.
>> Graham
>>
>> Also be sure you use the right crimps, plated I think,
>>not plain copper. Get a second opinion, I not as young as
>>I once was!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
>> To: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>;
>>europa-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Sunday, 2 March 2014, 6:04
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa or Stainless Steel
>>Control Cable
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Graham,
>> Wish I knew if it was what was supplied by Europa. Ive
>>had the kit too long to know, things have been moved
>>around, and I dont recall the Europa stuff ever being
>>labelled.
>> Maybe someone else might be able to clarify. Worst part
>>is, it looks old even though it mightnt be. It reminds
>>me of a Hills Hoist outside clothes line cable, but I
>>think that is more of an Aussie thing. I actually dont
>>have enough Nicopress sleeves now so Ill need more of
>>those anyway, so I can get some more pretty stuff ;-)
>> You normally use Stainless Steel cable by choice dont
>>you??
>> TR
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 Mar 2014, at 10:18 am, GRAHAM SINGLETON
>><grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Tony
>>>I'd say go ahead with the galvanised steel cable. It
>>>should be fine in Oz, so long as you don't go
>>>ocean sailing with it!
>>>Graham
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
>>>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>>>Sent: Saturday, 1 March 2014, 22:49
>>>Subject: Europa-List: Europa or Stainless Steel Control
>>>Cable
>>>
>>>
>>><tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>Gidday,
>>>I have gone through my fair share of cable, and
>>>consequently I have bits everywhere. I have a roll of
>>>cable which appears to be galvanised, or really dull
>>>Stainless Steel, which I believe doesnt happen. Why have
>>>nice shiny Stainless, if it stains. So, the best advice I
>>>have to figure out what is what is to use a magnet. The
>>>unknown roll of dull cable I have is extremely attractive
>>>to the magnet, and the Stainless is only slightly, but
>>>still is drawn towards the magnet on a really long
>>>suspended run, like the length in
>> the aft fuselage, towards the magnet when it is mm away,
>>but it still attracts it. So, this other roll I can only
>>imagine might have been that supplied by Europa, and I
>>wouldnt know because this roll has no product code or
>>numbers on it.
>>>My question, whilst Id prefer to use Stainless just
>>>because it doesnt look like it has been in the aircraft
>>>for a million years, however the gal cable (or whatever
>>>it is) I am told is more durable especially in terms of
>>>bends. This is a conservative approach from gliders where
>>>control cabling can have acute bends, but we dont have
>>>that. So, should I resurrect this roll of cable out of my
>>>waste bin and use it, or should I replace it with
>>>Stainless Steel?
>>>Thanks for any advice or help, and I appreciate all the
>>>help Ive got with this sofar.
>>>Regards
>>>Tony Renshawhttp://forums.matronics.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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