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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Motorglider Wings?
From: Rayfitton <rayfitton@virginmedia.com>
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 15:34:46
      


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> On May 15, 2019 at 10:29,  <Pete (mailto:peterz=40zutrasoft.com)>  wrot
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>  -->  Europa-List message posted by: Pete  <peterz=40zutrasoft.com>   
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> Yes, i forgot to mention gentle landings would be required as that woul
d be the weak link from my understanding.  
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> I still however do not understand the increased spar bending moment due
 to increased wing mass. Il. Have to start googling :)  
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> Cheers,  
> Pete  
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> >  On May 15, 2019, at 4:11 AM, Richard Churchill-Coleman  <richard.chu
rchill-coleman=40sky.com>  wrote:  
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> >  -->  Europa-List message posted by: Richard Churchill-Coleman  <rich
ard.churchill-coleman=40sky.com>   
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> >  John  
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> >  I won=99t speculate on the reasons for delay in certification 
as I am too aware of the law of libel. However, my understanding of the m
ain issue with increasing the MTOW is demonstrating the landing gear is c
apable of withstanding the additional loads, potentially with prop cleara
nce issues on the mono in addition.  
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> >  RIchard  
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> >  Sent from my iPhone  
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> >>  On 15 May 2019, at 08:39, John Wighton  <john=40wighton.net>  wrote
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> >>  -->  Europa-List message posted by: =22John Wighton=22  <john=40wig
hton.net>   
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> >>  Here in Canada we can declare whatever gross weight we want (wisely
 or  
> >>  not). Seeing that the added weight is itself in the wing and result
s in no  
> >>  increased stresses, I figure I could simply increase the gross with
 long  
> >>  wings by the same 100lbs without penalty (assuming enough HP). No=3F

> >>   
> >>  It is true that inertia relief can be credited to mitigate loads an
d this gives a proportional benefit with heavy wings. But to assume the s
tresses do not change is incorrect. The MG wings generate more lift, henc
e the bending moments and shear forces on the root will be higher.  
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> >>  I believe the spar depth was changed to increase 2nd Mt of area. Th
e goal therefore may have been to match the standard a/c stresses. I have
 some of Jason Russell's work on file from many years ago, it is probably
 worth taking a look at that and any other design data (at LAA=3F) to see
 what the margins are.  
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> >>  I suspect that the long delay in gaining approval for the MG versio
n stems from a reduction in structural margins. Perhaps someone can tell 
the story=3F=3F=3F=3F  
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> >>  John Wighton  
> >>  Europa XS trigear G-IPOD  
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