Willie, Glider pilots who may need to fly for 7 hrs or more get used to
peeing in flight, and I am not aware of one who has had any great difficulty
doing so in a Europa. William Mills had a glider style Pee tube fitted
(essentially a sort of funnel draining into a tube which voided into the
atmosphere somewhere down behind the wheel), and I find a bottle (actually a
washed out 1 litre oil container, which fits into one of the spaces below
the seat) serves entirely well. If needs must, you do get to know your
passenger quite well, but if embarrassed they can always be asked to study
the horizon at 3 o'clock!
One practical point to mention: Once when crossing the
E.German/Czech border with trees to the horizon in all directions, having
had a pee, I found that all my instruments were 'out', with no indication of
any electricity flowing any where, including to the 2 electric fuel pumps to
my 914. At the time I thought that the plane was running on the fuel in the
carb bowls. This did tend to induce the sort of intense concentration that
is a few millimetres from panic!
Fortunately a standard wizz round the panel to check switches & CBs
showed that both Main & Alternator toggle switches had been switched off by
my trouser bottom, when I had lifted up my left leg to replace the pee
bottle under the seat! I have since discovered that the standard Europa
wiring allows one pump to be supplied direct from the alternator even when
both switches are off.
Regards, David
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Harrison" <willie.harrison@tinyonline.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa - Extra Gas/ Instrument Rating.
> <willie.harrison@tinyonline.co.uk>
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> These are good subjects to link as concentrating on IFR flying with a
> full bladder is 10x harder than when VFR. I used to use a "Littlejohn"
> in the PA 28 but the seat angle and cockpit size of the Europa makes this
> impractical...
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> Anyway guys, I heard a rumour that our glider pilot brothers use a kind
> of exterior catheter device (designed for incontinent men) to enable them
> to do in-flight defuelling. Leaving aside the toilet humour associated
> with this, does anyone know anything about this?
>
> Willie Harrison
> G-BZNY: another 20 hours this month
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> On 20 Nov 2008, at 16:19, rampil wrote:
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>> Hey Bud!
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>> Ya know, if you fit a long range tank to my Europa,
>> I can get my buddies to fit you with your own long range tank!
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>> ijr
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