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Re: Europa-List: Door bulge because of seal

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Door bulge because of seal
From: Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 22:52:56
That=B4s true.

I changed the seals thinner and made them even thinner from the critical 
area (lower section between the shoot bolts). I also gave some heat gun 
to refoam the doors. They still keep water and noise well out.
And closes like BMW=B4s doors.

It was possible to use original seals but the doors were extremely 
difficult to close when seated. Plus I was totally worried about locking 
mechanism stresses when closing the handle. And they were bulging ugly.

Third shoot bolt would be ideal against bulging but decided personally 
it to be too complicated. Later I understood there would be also an 
other easier way to pull the door=B4s lower middle section inside ja 
keep it there.

I have also noticed it to be good to keep them normally closed. The 
seals get used to be flat.

Raimo
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Karl Heindl 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:00 PM
  Subject: RE: Europa-List: Door bulge because of seal


   
  Craig,
   
  The seals are too thick for the doors, a problem with a number of 
builders. Even if you didn't have a bulge, it is unlikely that you would 
be able to close the door from the inside.
  Simple solution is to replace the bottom half appr. of the seal with 
one of a slghtly smaller diameter.
  The source would be from a company that supplies upholstery bits to 
people who do restoration of automobiles. If you find one, ask first for 
a sample.
   
  Karl
   
   

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  > From: craigb@onthenet.com.au
  > To: europa-list@matronics.com
  > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Door bulge because of seal
  > Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:37:39 +1000
  > 
<craigb@onthenet.com.au>
  > 
  > without the seals the doors are sweet, nice and true, flush all 
round, its
  > only now the seal is on, that the door bulges,
  > its almost like the seal is too hard and is deforming the door.
  > 
  > craig
  > 
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
  > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred 
Klein
  > Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2008 1:01 PM
  > To: europa-list@matronics.com
  > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Door bulge because of seal
  > 
  > 
<fklein@orcasonline.com>
  > 
  > 
  > On Wednesday, May 7, 2008, at 18:08 US/Pacific, craig bastin wrote:
  > >
  > > Can anyone tell me if they had issues with the doors bulging 
because
  > > of the
  > > seals
  > > the doors bulge about 5mm in the middle because of the door seals.
  > 
  > Craig,
  > 
  > Both my doors bulge about 3 mm at the center of the lower edge; this 
is
  > w/o the seals or plexi.
  > I've yet to do a trial fit with the seals.
  > 
  > Bud Yerly advised use of a heat gun to reduce the bow and eliminate 
the
  > bulge, saying that proper fit before installing glass is essential,
  > otherwise getting proper fit WITH the glass is quite difficult.
  > 
  > Fred
  > 
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