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Re: Europa-List: Longer Pip Pins

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Longer Pip Pins
From: Carl Pattinson <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:55:22

Forget what I just said - I just read the Mod 73 instructions again and it 
says you cant - not sure why though.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Longer Pip Pins


> <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> Richard
>
> That explains things and I can see why you wouldnt want to remove any 
> layers of bid fron the upper recess. The standard design dosent seem to 
> have much contact area at the base
>
> Is there any reason why one couldnt cut away a small amount of the bottom 
> bid layups using the tip of a twist drill - just enough to allow the pip 
> to open. I cant see this compromising the strength of the bottom layups.
>
> My pip pin holes are non standard being circular 4cm in diameter and 
> consequently the base has a much greater area in contact with TP6.  This 
> has turned out to be an unintentional advantage over the standard design - 
> and comply with the minimum dimensions in PFA FSB 006.
>
> Carl
> G-LABS
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:28 PM
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Longer Pip Pins
>
>
>>
>> Actually Carl, there are four layers of bid at the point where the pip
>> pin exits, two small 1" square reinforcing patches then the two large
>> pieces. Also mine had two layers of bid in the top recess and I don't
>> want to disturb these as I think they provide extra retention for the
>> pins in case the TP6 disbonds. My pins are not quite long enough now.
>>
>> Richard Iddon G-RIXS
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl
>> Pattinson
>> Sent: 19 July 2007 20:31
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Europa-List: Longer Pip Pins
>>
>> <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
>>
>> One thing that has been puzzling me over the last couple of days is why
>> Mod
>> 73 should require longer pip pins than those originally supplied - 1.75"
>>
>> My aircraft hasnt undergone the mod as yet and at present there is
>> between
>> 2-3mm play when you tug on the pip pins. My understanding is that mod 73
>>
>> requires two plies of bid over the top of the TP6 sleeve and this should
>> add
>> no more than 1.5mm to the overall diameter so my pins should still fit.
>>
>>
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>> 18/07/2007 15:30
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