Ditto!!!! I can't speak for the others involved, only myself. What I know, as
far as I'm concerned, is that KW is a cheat, a thief and a liar. I hope KW tries
to sue me for those comments, as I would love to get him in an American court.
I have written proof of what I said. When I finally had enough, I said I
wanted a refund, and for a 2 to 3 week period of time "the funds were coming".
I also have a bogus copy of a phony wire transfer. KW put the same hard sell
on me at S n F in 04 and promised me that a container was "on the docks" ready
to ship. I had even hired a guy to fly across the country and drive back the
phase II and III kits. I even paid for two airline tickets based on what KW
told me about ship dates. I called the factory and was informed that not only
was there no container, but there hadn't been one since the previous Jan or
Feb. He wasn't content with that, but tried to get additional funds out of me
in the month of June for an FWF package that didn't
exist. I'm not saying anything that I would not say to KW's face, fortunately
for both of us it is probably a good idea that it probably won't happen.
-----Original Message-----
From: Duncan McFadyean <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: (Without Prejudice)
<<The demise of the Rover group is a prime example. >>
You might be right to quote this in context with KW. But if only you knew
some of the finer details of the Rover debate.
I do!
Nuff said.
Duncan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: (Without Prejudice)
> <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> Why are you disgusted that Keith Wilson and the PFA have put their side of
> the story.
>
> There is a premise in this country, that a person is innocent until proven
> guilty. Despite all the bad feeling and the fact that people have lost a
> lot
> of money there is no proof that it is Keiths fault. Is there any evidence
> that he funded a lavish lifestyle at the companys/ customers expense? The
> worst you can accuse him is of bad management and even that would be
> difficult to prove. Its a sad fact of life but aircraft manufacturers seem
> to get into financial trouble all the time. The list of companies that
> have
> gone out of business is endless.
>
> Companies go to the wall every day and people lose large sums as a result
> of
> it. Quite often the directors involved lose large sums too and sometimes
> their homes. I know this because I nearly lost my home and 300,000 in
> exactly the same way. At the end of the day I still lost a large sum of
> money and I am still repaying the debt, 5 years after the event. Keith
> Wilson has personally lost similar sums of money. The idea that he has
> walked away scott free is total rubbish.
>
> When a company gets into financial trouble there is a fine dividing line
> between going on when the company is losing money and pulling the plug
> before it is too late. The demise of the Rover group is a prime example.
> If
> managers/ directors pulled the plug at the first sign of financial
> difficulty there wouldnt be many companies left in business.
>
> Whatever Keith is alleged to have done, he is entitled to defend himself
> and
> to earn a living for himself and his family.
>
> I understand that people have had their dreams shattered and lost
> considerable amounts of money but all these things can be rebuilt with
> time.
>
> What has happened does not give anyone the right to conduct a personal
> vendetta against Keith or to insist that the PFA dosen't use his work. The
> fact that he is offered to make the recompense should be applauded and it
> is
> time this episode in the Europa's history was brought to a close and Keith
> was allowed to get on with his life.
>
> Carl Pattinson
> G-LABS
>
> PS: Just in case people want to accuse me of being biased I will tell you
> of
> my connection with Keith. Before he took the reins at EML I did business
> with him in his capacity of Aviation Photographer and I never had reason
> to
> question his personal integrity. I have had no dealings with him since the
> closure of EML nor is there any prospect of doing so as my company has
> closed. I have spoken to him once since that time to hear his side of the
> story, which in my opinion is only fair. I have also spoken to Graham
> Newby
> of the PFA.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: (Without Prejudice)
>
>
>>
>> I was pretty disgusted with the bit that Brian Hope had written on the
>> end
>> of KWs atricle that went on about what a decent bloke KW was and how he
>> was honest and reliable! I think that Brian has oversteped the lines of
>> his remit by writing that and should print some articles by the poor
>> unfortunates that parted with their hard earned and got nothing.
>>
>> We need to establish a way of making collective representation to the PFA
>> and Brian Hope (without anoying everyone else outside the UK who are not
>> in the PFA) - Any suggestions?
>>
>>
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