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Re: Europa-List: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff
From: Timward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 08:57:48

Hi all,
You may well find it nothing to do with the engine. 
Look at the inlet fuel cobra pipe connection to the fuel cap, the rubber pipe 
from
the cobra to the tank, and the connection between the rubber pipe and fuel
tank. Also the condition of the rubber pipe.
All have the potential to give off smells and on take off, with a full tank, the
higher pitch attitude can do this.

Kind regards,

Tim


Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street
Fendalton,
Christchurch,  8052
New Zealand.

ward.t@xtra.co.nz

Ph 64 3 3515166
Mob 0210640221


> On 12/05/2015, at 7:17 am, dpy01 <alanb@dpy01.co.uk> wrote:
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> If you have recently dropped the fuel bowel check the gasket has seated 
> correctly
when you have reassembled. 
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> Are the floats, floating correct. See the service bulletin on sinking floats.

> 
> There is a tool for checking that the float operated valve actually has the 
> correct
pressure applied when the bowls are full and the floats are floating
> 
> Also the new mech pump is higher pressure and can overcome floats if not 
> applying
the right pressure on the fuel shutoff valve.
> 
> Alan
> iRMT
> G-OBJT
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 11 May 2015, at 19:22, Brian Davies <brian.davies@clara.co.uk> wrote:
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>> Hi John,
>> 
>> I have had almost  the same problem on my aircraft (Trigear 912ULS).  My
>> fuel smell seems at its worst soon after take off and at initial  throttIe-
>> back at about 1000 ft. I  thought I had narrowed it down to one of the carbs
>> flooding after take off and changed the float needles to the latest type and
>> the problem seemed to go away.  Rotax have tried three different spring
>> strengths for the float needles so there must be a problem they were trying
>> to fix.  The problem came back a few weeks ago so I am also interested in
>> other reports of this problem.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Brian Davies.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JohnFrance
>> Sent: 11 May 2015 18:38
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Europa-List: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> During a flight yesterday I had a fairly strong smell of petrol in the cabin
>> just after take off and while in the climb, it lasted about 2 minutes.
>> 
>> I recently removed the drip trays from under the carbs on the advice of
>> several people. Their view was, it's better to have a few drips catching
>> fire than a bigger volume that has been heated up.
>> 
>> One of the trays did have a horizontal ring around the inside like a tide
>> mark.
>> The float chambers of both carbs were cleaned and inspected as well as
>> floats and pins for wear. The floats are not part of the various duffer
>> series so I must admit I didn't weigh them. Perhaps I should have!
>> Upon reassembly I pressurized the system and was particularly attentive to
>> the starboard one that had the "tide mark" inside the tray.
>> 
>> I don't have any proof of the origin of the smell but I made the link to a
>> recent change that I have carried out.
>> 
>> If anyone has any ideas how I might trace the problem or curative measures I
>> would like to know?
>> Best regards
>> John
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>> Europa mono Nr 192
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442016#442016
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