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Re: Europa-List: Stick Grips

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stick Grips
From: Peter Zutrauen <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:30:29
approx how many pounds of push/pull stick force is it at cruise with a
runaway trim (with a stock length stick)?

cheers & thx,
Pete


On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Bob Harrison <ptag.dev@talktalk.net> wrote
:

> Hi! William
>
> ................Just don=99t shorten the control stick ......use th
e bent
> one and fix it by rotating it to best position.
>
> Regards
>
> Bob Harrison.
>
>
> *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *William Daniell
> *Sent:* 10 June 2014 13:20
>
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: Stick Grips
>
>
> whassat....Bob I dont remember that issue can you enlighten on the trim
> issue please
>
> Will
>
>
>  William Daniell
>
> LONGPORT
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> +57 310 295 0744
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>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Lance Sandford <sandford@melbpc.org.au>
> wrote:
>
>
> Bob
>
> Thanks Bob. That is about what I suspected.
>
> Regards
>
> Lance Sandford
>
>
> On 10/06/14 18:09, Bob Harrison wrote:
>
>
> Answer:- NO SHORTER WHATEVER.  TO LAND FULLY NOSE UP TRIM IT WOULD BE
> Extremely difficult on your own ! but power assisted by the passenger
> probably ! But the extreme loads are a question over the mechanical
> strengths of the linkages !  When I had to go to fully trimmed up to get
> the damn relay deck to reverse it was easier to let it go fully nose up
> trim and pray the deck would let itself reverse when it got to the end of
> travel. Been there done that when Menzimer was insisting my problem was
> wiring when in actual fact they eventually discovered that the end of the
> travel by the relay masked the actual problem in the relay . Since I fitt
ed
> the MARK II relay deck never a problem !!!!!
> Regards
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lance Sandford
> Sent: 10 June 2014 01:13
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stick Grips
>
> --> <sandford@melbpc.org.au>
>
> Question for those who have test flown their Europa.
>
> How far can you shorten the control stick and still comfortably land the
> aircraft with the stabilizer stuck at full travel in either direction ,
> without being Superman?
>
> Lance Sandford
>
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