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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stick Grips
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 16:08:38
Tony,
You are better off rebending the stick.  Your gut to panel distance must 
be judged.  The pitch rod travel is fixed more or less by geometry of 
the system, only slight changes are made there.  Make a new stick custom 
to your grip.  As for limits, your knees, gut and panel will determine 
what the stick shape and size need to be.  What is important is 13+, -5 
on the stab and your gut and panel (including knuckles) do not limit 
that at any aileron travel limit.  Latterally, make sure the pain 
necessary to do full deflection is not noticeable in roll.  Take it on a 
bit of faith, and note that tall grips create more of a pain and rework 
than they give back in enjoyment.  It can add another 40 hours to the 
build.  

Unless your ego cannot live without it, it is a cut/bend/fit exercise.  
The KISS principle was applied to my bird because of doing 12 gotta have 
custom grips discussions.

The last time I pulled a trigger on a stick, bad things happened to 
other people on the ground, I don't have one.  I still fly with my index 
finger extended.

Regards,
Bud
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tony Renshaw<mailto:tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com> 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 8:33 AM
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stick Grips


<tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com<mailto:tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>>

  Hi Bud, Am I right that I can tinker with winding out the rod end at 
the bottom of the control column, to get the whole range of the stick 
further aft. It appears though the longer you make that arc, it alters 
the way the pitch pushrod travels within the aileron tube, and you could 
create a bind. Unfortunately I have a nice little 1 1/2" fence of 2 
plies of BID that creates a surface to protect my controls, and to allow 
a boot to attach to, which is basically in the way of future close 
inspection. I think I might just rely on sound and feel throughout the 
control movement range. Irritating, and unforeseen.
  Regards 
  Tony Renshaw


  Sent from my iPad

  > On 9 Jun 2014, at 10:08 pm, "Bud Yerly" 
<budyerly@msn.com<mailto:budyerly@msn.com>> wrote:
  > 
<budyerly@msn.com<mailto:budyerly@msn.com>>
  > 
  > Tony,
  > When going with other than the MAC style stick grips, you are in 
custom territory.
  > I have had custom bending and welding done with a stud, and also 
with a military style multipin connector in the top of a stick.  I find 
that custom stick grips usually come with proper spacers for 1 and 7/8 
inch tubes.   I would bet that the stick manufacturer has a solution to 
the fitting, but not the cockpit clearances.
  > 
  > The issue, as you have found, is the cockpit clearance is going to 
require you to replace your sticks with custom bends to allow the grip 
head, at your comfortable flying position, to give clearance all around 
the cockpit. Nothing worse than testing an aircraft whose control limit 
stops are the panel and persons anatomy.   Also check the passenger side 
as well.
  > 
  > Regards,
  > Bud Yerly
  > --------------------------------------------------
  > From: "Tony Renshaw" 
<tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com<mailto:tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>>
  > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 6:23 AM
  > To: <europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>>
  > Subject: Europa-List: Stick Grips
  > 
<tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com<mailto:tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>>
  >> 
  >> Gidday,
  >> I have a pair of Tosken Manufacturing Stick Grips, but the way they 
are raked forward is giving me grief. I=99ve already cut them down 
to suit, which works by having a 1=9D insert with a smaller 
diameter hole that the grip mounts through. So, I am after a stick grip 
that has a male stud sticking out the bottom that goes into a receptacle 
that fits inside our sticks, NOT over them. Any suggestions??
  >> Regards
  >> Tony Renshaw
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 


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