I fitted the mk2 to G-IVER in 2007 before first flight,
it's very straight forward to fit and works a treat, the few times I left it
switched
off for the bi annual flight test just goes to show how it reduces your
workload especially doing EFATO and simulated off airfield landings,
Without doubt it a highly recommended bit of kit for very little money IMO
Ivor Phillips
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> On 11 May 2014, at 15:40, "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk> wrote:
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> Karl, I could copy relevant sections of my mk 2 installation manual to you if
you tell me what you are after. David Joyce, G-XSDJ
> PS Don't get confused over the multiple David Joyces in this message!
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> Karl Heindl <kheindl@msn.com> wrote:
>> David,
>> I was also looking for the installation manual, but without success. There is
one website but they want my credit card details for a trial membership. Has
Mark got it online somewhere ?
>> regards Karl
>> Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 14:31:30 +0100
>> From: stranfaer@btinternet.com
>> Subject: Europa-List: Smart Ass
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> David
>> I agree entirely, I have contacted Mark burton and he informs me the mark 2
version is in test and is a few months away. Cost appears to be very reasonable!
>> Can you enlighten us all if it is retro fittable? and how easy to do
>> particularly
on a classic?rgdsDJ Sent to you by David Joyce
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>> From:
>> David Joyce <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, 11 May 2014, 11:42
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List:
Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Europa Crash in Lbeck/Germany
>> Graham, Sorry to be butting in on your debate with Tim, and I see where you
are coming from now, but can I just add that the SmartASS is g compensated so
it gives exactly the same 'margin over stall' information as an AOA device (and
at a fraction of the price). It might appear that I am pushing this as if I
had some
>> commercial tie up, which is not the case. I am evangelical about it because
we have now had (subject to confirmation in this latest case) 6 Europas lost to
stall/spin accidents, an appalling statistic for a plane that flies so
beautifully
and is slippery enough not to lose speed rapidly. There have of course
been countless crashes of other types also, but in our relatively small and
tight
knit Europa community it is truly sobering and we should all be asking ourselves
are we confident of not becoming number 7.
>> Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
>> GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> Tim
>>> maybe we are mixing things a bit. ASI will measure instantly changes in
>>> airspeed.
When AoA changes aircraft speed will not change instantly but will take
several seconds.
>> The force causing change of airspeed is increase or decrease in drag, usually
quite a small force.
>>> During take off acceleration is caused by engine thrust and ASI will record
speed of course, as soon as the aircraft is flying AoA should quickly settle
at best climb.
>>> Stall occurs at the same AoA whatever airspeed or total weight is. (I'm
>>> thinking
aloud here)
>>> In fact best climb, cruise or glide speeds are also at fixed AoAs. They are
not at fixed airspeeds but
>>> change as all up weight changes.
>>> AoA is much the best primary flight control instrument. That's why fast jets
use it.
>>> A pity AoA meters aren't mass produced like ASIs are!
>>> best regards
>>> Graham
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: houlihan <houlihan@blueyonder.co.uk>
>>> To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, 11 May 2014, 8:34
>>> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Re:
Europa-List: Europa Crash in Lbeck/Germany
>>> Hi Graham.
>>> We may be talking apples against pears here BUT if what you say is true then
on takeoff I would be at 100' thinking about retracting the undercarriage before
the ASI has moved from zero.
>>> I agree it takes time to accelerate or decelerate a 600kg mass but the
>>> pressure
measurement showing movement relative to the local air mass will be indicated
within a small fraction of a second even using our normal mechanical manometers
that are calibrated in airspeed and could be even quicker using electronic
pressure sensors close to the pitot head.
>>> True an AOA or alpha system would be helpful but I
>> just want to be warned if through lack of attention or being distracted I
>> allow
my speed to decay , these lack of attention or distraction events usually
build up slowly without it being noticed and I would guess rarely happens over
one or two seconds.
>>> best regards
>>> Tim On 10 May 2014 22:28, GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
wrote:
>>> Tim
>>>> don't think so , the ASI won't move (or shouldn't!) until the aircraft has
accelerated, or worse slowed down and that takes many seconds.
>>>> When it says "stall speed!" you.ve already stalled. Not a lot of use.
>>>> Graham
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: houlihan <houlihan@blueyonder.co.uk>
>>>> To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2014, 14:31
>>>> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Europa Crash in
>>>> Lbeck/Germany
>>>> Hi Graham.
>>>> I think you may have put the decimal point in the wrong place. I appreciate
what you are suggesting but 20 seconds ?
>>>> I bet the real figure is much less than a second.
>>>> Mind you how would you measure the lag , my ASI seems to move at the speed
of light at times.
>>>> Tim
>>>>> On 10 May 2014 13:19, GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Or an AoA meter as primary attitude/speed instrument. The ASI is always 20
seconds too late.
>>>>> Very sad, I met Manfred while he was building. A very nice man and a nice
Europa.
>>>>> Graham
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: David Joyce <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
>>>>> To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2014, 12:36
>>>>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Crash in Lbeck/Germany
>>>>>
>>>>> I strongly suspect that this another case where a SmartASS or the
>>>>> equivalent
might have saved them both. David Joyce, G-XSDJ
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