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Re: Europa-List: Safety improvement list

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Safety improvement list
From: Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:01:36

Bob The Mosquito

I use regularly reserve side (to know it is usable).
The reserve side filter is always as clean as it was when new.
Believe me, my tank is clean and it will be so.

Raimo OH-XRT from Suomi


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Safety improvement list


Raimo   Remember that the reserve side will be the most likley to 
recieve any contaminant since that is where the filler is, so.........
should there ever be a major contaninant event when you switch to 
reserve it just may not be quite so ready to provide fuel.

Regards

Bob Harrison .

>----Original Message----
>From: raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
>Date: 24/11/2009 18:04 
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subj: Re: Europa-List: Safety improvement list
>
fi>
>
>Graham,
>
>I did not. You wrote
>
>"the rubber hose gets eroded every time it (a filter)
>> > is removed."
>
>That was my point only.
>If you change a filter let is say 5 to 10 times during rubber hoses 
life time, they do not get eroded at all.
>That is surely The Fact.
>
>> It is possible to block the filter in one tank filling 
>
>That is of course true. I know it because I have been there.
>But NEVER again. Why? 
>
>Because I am now a better pilot and
>
>1) my tank is totally clean since that incidense.
>2) there will never ever be any contaminants any more in my tank 
becauce
>    a) I use only carefully filtered (by me) unleaded autopetrol 
(Mogas)
>    b) I use only totally clean 100LL which is a self-evident truth 
(at least in Finland)
>
>When refueling our planes we have to be very carefull !
>
>For example it (Andair) does not help if we refuel JetA1...I mean it 
doesnt make wonders.
>
>I think Europas idea to use two parallel installed inline filters is 
good. 
>One for main and one for a reserve tank. It is reasonable.
>
>And - BTW - those in-line filters are also checkable before EVERY 
flight.
>I do it every 5 flight hours (like removing the upper cowling same 
time also).
>
>Nice to change ideas with you, Graham.
>
>Raimo OH.-XRT from Suomi
>
>PS: should I take a photo from Rotax Original -type in-line filter?
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Graham Singleton" <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:45 PM
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Safety improvement list
>
>
<grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>> 
>> Raimo
>> you missed my point!
>> It is possible to block the filter in one tank filling as happened 
to a 
>> Europa I saw recently. It is more sensible to check gascolator 
before 
>> EVERY flight instead of risking an out landing. Without disturnbing 
the 
>> fuel lines.
>> Graham
>> 
>> 
>> Raimo Toivio wrote:
toivio@rwm.fi>
>> >
>> > Graham
>> >   
>> > Trouble with any fixed in line filter is you cannot check it 
without 
>> > disturbing the fuel lines so the rubber hose gets eroded every 
time it 
>> > is removed.
>> >
>> > That is not an argument!
>> >
>> > Flying 50 hrs a year and changing an inline filter once a year is 
an average, I assume.
>> > We change all the rubber parts every five year (some change them 
every 10 year).
>> > Changing mostly because of ageing.
>> >
>> > I bet my plane this disturbing (because of changing filters 5 to 
10 times) means nothing for quality rubber hoses.
>> >
>> > Think how much or how often the bungee or tyre rubber is 
disturbed.
>> >
>> > Raimo OH-XRT from Suomi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>


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