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Re: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
From: JR Gowing <jrgowing@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:12:34
Craig
I have been using the A420 I got with the kit in about 1966 and believe the
 conponents are long lasting - but now that you have spoken I will run at t
est before next use.
JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 NSW in Oz
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: craig bastin 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:39 AM
  Subject: RE: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty


  Yes i did that with mine, but the joints i did all came apart by hand. Do
nt know but i think that qualifies as a FAIL 
  I just use it for fixing bits around the house now, plenty for that
    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-
server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Hagar
    Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 10:22 AM
    To: europa-list@matronics.com
    Subject: RE: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty


    I and others have mentioned this before on this site about expiration d
ates on the Redux.  Alot of  that is due to how long they want to keep reco
rds and liability.  If you are concerned about the suitability of the mater
ial concerning its expriation date make a test coupon.  Make a lap sample o
f the thickness or number of plies of fiberglass etc that you are  anticipa
ting to bond in service and do a destructive test.  If the fibereglass brea
ks or tears before the  bond separates you can reasonably be assured your m
aterial is still good.

    Steve Hagar
    A143
    Mesa AZ


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: craig bastin 
      To: europa-list@matronics.com
      Sent: 5/23/2008 2:01:30 PM 
      Subject: RE: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty


      I dont know about your expiry times Bud, Are you sure they are sendin
g you new batches.
      Like you I am forced to buy the six quart cases and the last one I go
t, 
      new from the australian distributor in september 07 and it is quoting
 an expiry of june 2010
      price was much the same $1280 a case of 6

      craig
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-l
ist-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ALAN YERLY
        Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 4:14 AM
        To: europa-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty


        Roger, and other Europa Builders in need of Redux also known as Ara
ldite 420 or Epibond 420 A/B.  

        I order Redux in cases direct through my long time distributor TAPE
.  As there is no other acceptable substitute for Redux, for the Europa and
 as a result I am still buying it in bulk and shipping it.  I have looked f
or substitutes, and many epoxies are as strong, but none as ductile or will
ing to be used in aircraft.

        I have been informed by my US distributor of Epibond 420 A/B (Redux
) that the manufacturer, Huntsman Products in California, has restructured 
their pricing and packaging.   I have been in contact with my distributor a
nd Huntsman over the last four months trying to resolve the issue.  Gladly,
 Huntsman has at least changed their policy and have agreed to distribute E
pibond 420 in 6 quart cases again.  Unfortunately, Huntsman has nearly doub
led the price per case with no significant bulk discounts available for mul
tiple cases.    I've researched importing fresh Redux from overseas and it 
is slightly more costly due to the weak dollar and high shipping/hazardous 
fees.

        If I order soon, and I can still combine with other distributors I 
can get 6 quarts for about $280 a quart plus shipping to you (typically $20
).  Yes, I know that is $120 more than last year.  Airbus is the primary us
er so if anyone knows someone at Airbus that can steal you some and smuggle
 it into the states, we are stuck with some pretty ugly prices.  

        Delivery is 30-45 days to me so it will all be a fresh batch.  Shel
f life is a year opened or unopened but usually good for at least two if un
opened.

        I have tentative orders for 2-3 quarts so far.  I need three others
.

        Bud Yerly
        Custom Flight Creations
        Europa Distributor 
        Cell 813-244-8354
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Roger Lowe 
          To: europa-list@matronics.com 
          Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:09 PM
          Subject: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty


a>

          Everyone,

          Has anyone been able to source Araldite 420 and Araldite 2102 (ra
pid epoxy) in the US or Canada=3F If you have, can you forward me their conta
ct information. 

          The stuff from my partially completed kit that I have purchased h
as expired. The stuff I believe is classified as hazardous material for shi
pping and I'm in Canada so I'll need to find out if the vendor can ship it 
here too.

          OR

          Is there an =22approved=22 alternative that can be used that is readi
ly available in US or Canada=3F

          Thanks,

          Roger Lowe
          A252


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