I and others have mentioned this before on this site about expiration dates on
the Redux. Alot of that is due to how long they want to keep records and
liability.
If you are concerned about the suitability of the material concerning
its expriation date make a test coupon. Make a lap sample of the thickness or
number of plies of fiberglass etc that you are anticipating to bond in service
and do a destructive test. If the fibereglass breaks or tears before the
bond separates you can reasonably be assured your material is still good.
Steve Hagar
A143
Mesa AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: craig bastin
Sent: 5/23/2008 2:01:30 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
I dont know about your expiry times Bud, Are you sure they are sending you new
batches.
Like you I am forced to buy the six quart cases and the last one I got,
new from the australian distributor in september 07 and it is quoting an expiry
of june 2010
price was much the same $1280 a case of 6
craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ALAN YERLY
Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 4:14 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
Roger, and other Europa Builders in need of Redux also known as Araldite 420 or
Epibond 420 A/B.
I order Redux in cases direct through my long time distributor TAPE. As there
is no other acceptable substitute for Redux, for the Europa and as a result I
am still buying it in bulk and shipping it. I have looked for substitutes, and
many epoxies are as strong, but none as ductile or willing to be used in
aircraft.
I have been informed by my US distributor of Epibond 420 A/B (Redux) that the
manufacturer,
Huntsman Products in California, has restructured their pricing and
packaging. I have been in contact with my distributor and Huntsman over the
last four months trying to resolve the issue. Gladly, Huntsman has at least
changed their policy and have agreed to distribute Epibond 420 in 6 quart cases
again. Unfortunately, Huntsman has nearly doubled the price per case with
no significant bulk discounts available for multiple cases. I've researched
importing fresh Redux from overseas and it is slightly more costly due to the
weak dollar and high shipping/hazardous fees.
If I order soon, and I can still combine with other distributors I can get 6
quarts
for about $280 a quart plus shipping to you (typically $20). Yes, I know
that is $120 more than last year. Airbus is the primary user so if anyone knows
someone at Airbus that can steal you some and smuggle it into the states,
we are stuck with some pretty ugly prices.
Delivery is 30-45 days to me so it will all be a fresh batch. Shelf life is a
year opened or unopened but usually good for at least two if unopened.
I have tentative orders for 2-3 quarts so far. I need three others.
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations
Europa Distributor
Cell 813-244-8354
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Lowe
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
Everyone,
Has anyone been able to source Araldite 420 and Araldite 2102 (rapid epoxy) in
the US or Canada? If you have, can you forward me their contact information.
The stuff from my partially completed kit that I have purchased has expired. The
stuff I believe is classified as hazardous material for shipping and I'm in
Canada so I'll need to find out if the vendor can ship it here too.
OR
Is there an "approved" alternative that can be used that is readily available in
US or Canada?
Thanks,
Roger Lowe
A252
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