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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trike Main gear sockets
From: Duncan & Ami McFadyean <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:26:18

Michael,
I was curious because tire wear on the trigear seems to be quite high.
If the tracking changes greatly under load it would suggest that setting up 
initially with some compensatory toe-in/out would be beneficial.
No good to you by then!

Reds.,
Duncan.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Grass" <m.grass@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trike Main gear sockets


>
> Duncan,
>
> I can not give you any ideas how the tracking will change once the plane 
> is loaded. I believe based on the geometric setup, the gear will flex out 
> (getting wider) and will toe in. I am not sure yet how I will be able to 
> measure it but definatly will try once the plane is loaded but this will 
> still take quite some time. This summer I hope I get the wings closed and 
> all liftpins, crossbar and the flap drive tube in.
>
> Regards
>
> Michael Grass
> A266 Trigear Detroit
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trike Main gear sockets
>
>
>> <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>>
>> Michael,
>> Any thoughts (or measurements) as to how the tracking changes once the 
>> weight of the aircraft is placed on the legs (that have been set-up to 
>> zero toe-in/toe-out)?
>>
>> Duncan McF.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Michael Grass" <m.grass@comcast.net>
>> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trike Main gear sockets
>>
>>
>>> Hi Rob,
>>>
>>> The complaint I have is to myself that I do not find the time to do more
>>> building. I enjoy time spend on my plane. The point I tried to make is 
>>> that
>>> the builder spend quite some time on the web for the main gear sockets.
>>> Even without the top on you spend a lot time bending over.
>>> Building should be fun. It is more fun if you work smart and try to have 
>>> as
>>> easy access as possible. To me, time spend building is therapy. What you
>>> don't want is therapy after time spend building so work smart and enjoy 
>>> the
>>> quality time spend with your project.
>>>
>>> What I did, I used bondo and stuck 5 reference points to the garage 
>>> floor. 3
>>> along the centerline of the fuselage. One in the front, one in the 
>>> center of
>>> the main gear legs and one in the center under the fin. all lined up and 
>>> on
>>> the exact same height and in level along a line.
>>>
>>> Then I bonded with bondo the endpoints of the main gear legs to the 
>>> floor.
>>> Again made sure with Pythagoras help that it was square to the center 
>>> line
>>> and on the same
>>> level.
>>>
>>> After that I rolled my fuselage cradle over those points and used M12
>>> threaded rod as a height adjustment to level the fuselage over my 3
>>> reference points along the center line and clamped the main gear legs 
>>> into
>>> position.
>>>
>>> This kept the fuselage the whole time igid and secured in place.
>>>
>>> I kept this setup in place till the top fuselage was bonded on. Nothing
>>> moved and all is plum, squared and level.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Grass
>>> A266 Trigear, Detroit
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Rob Housman" <rob@hyperion-ef.com>
>>> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 10:36 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trike Main gear sockets
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We cuss a lot.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rob Housman
>>>> Irvine, CA
>>>> Europa XS Tri-Gear
>>>> A070
>>>> Airframe complete
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>>>> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael 
>>>> Grass
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:14 AM
>>>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trike Main gear sockets
>>>>
>>>> <m.grass@comcast.net>
>>>>
>>>> Craig,
>>>>
>>>> My web took some 80h to complete without thhe top on. I can not imagine
>>>> how
>>>> peope do this with the top and no frequent vistits to the chiropractor.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Michael Grass
>>>>
>>>> A266, 914, Woodcomp prop,
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "raggi6771" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
>>>> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:15 AM
>>>> Subject: Europa-List: Trike Main gear sockets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just curious, how many of you fitted the main gear leg sockets before
>>>>> you bonded the top on.
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