Karel,
I may be wrong, but one reason might be the elasticity of the outrigger leg
s.
A standard 2-wheeler taildragger need not be more direction-stable than the
monowheel, but the slightest turn of the latter will flex the outer outrigg
er, thereby, I think,
increasing the force of the turn, making it more difficult to correct it.
And the way to correct a such a turn, as we all know, is by short, rapid ta
ps on the
opposite rudder pedal, and not, as may be the natural reflex, keeping your
foot down on
the pedal, until the whole contraption enters a turn in the opposite direct
ion which you will never
get out of, until the lowered wing-tip scrapes the surface and the precious
propeller
blades emit sounds of destruction.
Niels ----- Original Message -----
From: karelvranken
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: builder test flying his own creation=3F
Mike and all,
Where are the instructors to explain why the Europa is different and diff
icult to land especially on hard runways with cross wind=3F We until now hear
only warnings. I hope there will come a discussion why it so different eve
n for a taildragger.
Karel Vranken, #447 Mono XS 912ULS Airmaster CS, only 37 hours on F-PKRL,
first flight by myself with 3800 hours half of wich on taildragger.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Parkin
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: builder test flying his own creation=3F
OK Guys,
You can talk your way around this subject until you are blue in the fac
e !!!! I am sure the sense of achievement is enhanced beyond measure - an
d it is the individual owners own choice.
But be very clear, I don't care what your experience is - but if you te
st fly your own monowheel without a reasonable amount of experience on type
you are placing all your hard work at the mercy of your overconfidence/ego
. It is entirely up to the individual.
Perhaps I am underconfident these days and I have flown a few things be
tween Slingsby Swallow thru Chipmunk on the slow side to F15 on the fast si
de, and it is very obvious to me and what has happened to different individ
uals over recent years that an inexperienced europa builder flying his own
pride and joy is putting himself and his creation at an increased risk - th
at's all.
Ya pays ya money and ya takes ya chance. (But please do not cause my i
nsurance to increase.)
regards,
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Niels Kock
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: builder test flying his own creation=3F
Hello, Tom.
You are right. The ground loop was last Saturday, and my first flight
,which I had no qualms about and which went just fine, was exacty 8 years
ago.
And your last paragraph is my point exactly, because no matter how ex
tensively your Europa has been test flown by another person, your first fli
ght will still be your first flight.
But I think - if I am not remembering wrong - that Graham and Paul M
callister's poin was that the safest way was to have some experienced hand
at your side initially.
Niels
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Friedland
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: builder test flying his own creation=3F
Hi Niels
I am sorry to hear about your ground loop. I don't understand your
regrets about doing your first flight. Evidently that was ok and you had
the loop problem on a subsequent flight. Is that correct=3F
If someone else had done the first flight and you flew afterward, w
ould you not have been just as likely to have the aircraft get away from yo
u=3F
What am I missing here=3F
Tom Friedland, A 079, N96V
On 6/10/07, Niels Kock <nielskock@get2net.dk> wrote:
t.dk >
Mike,
It just proves that one cannot rely on one's own experience alone
, but
should benefit from those of others, before opening one's big mou
th.
The message is that what is true for some is not for others.
regards,
Niels
----- Original Message -----
From: =22Mike Parkin=22 <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
To: < europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: builder test flying his own creation=3F
> <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
>
> What I mean is that
> 1. All Europas having been cleared by their inspectors will, al
most per
> definition, be
> well behaving when airborne.
> 2. I seriously doubt that an eventual accompanying flying-instr
uctor can
> prevent a ground
> loop if the builder has initiated one. The extra weight of t
he
> instructor only increases the
> inertia.
> 3. The ongoing horror stories about the proneness of the mono t
o
> groundloop are, I feel, somewhat
> exaggerated, and, what is worse, they will unavoidably add
to the
> likely pre-take off apprehension
> of the builder. Which may increase his concentration, but a
s likely
> will deteriorate his flying perfor-
> mance. And weeks or months of waiting for the availability
of a
> suitable test pilot serves
> only to increase the apprehension .
> 4. Finally, one should not ignore the significance of the marve
llous
> moment where you yourself take
> that blasted, expensive, beautiful toy, gestated, perhaps,
in spite of
> your wife's silent misgivings,
> aloft for the very first time. And,afterwards, having parke
d and shut
> down the engine, can lean back,
> shut your eyes and enjoy one of the rare moments in life,
where you
> are truly in awe.
>
>
> Niels,
>
> Just goes to show how wrong you can be. You are not the first
and you
> will not be the last. I didn't test fly my mono, but with a go
od measure
> of overconfidence in a 20 knot crosswind, it bit me also.
>
> At least you are safe and just have the embarrassment of paying
for a new
> prop.
>
> How would you now modify your previous statements -- rep
eated
> above.
>
> regards,
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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