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Re: Europa-List: Flying a heavy Europa XS?

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flying a heavy Europa XS?
From: Jeff B <topglock@cox.net>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:18:17

Ron,

I listed N55XS, a tri-gear, at 1450, gross.  The plane weighs 925 lbs 
and CG comes in at about 60".  With the wife and I and a full load of 
fuel, it is impossible to go beyond the aft CG and still remain within 
the gross weight.  We made a 900 mile cross country at, or very close to 
gross, taking off from various fields, some of which were at 3500 ft, 
without any problems.  The Europa seems to be happy with this 
configuration, at these altitudes.  Handling, in the air was delightful...

rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote:
> 
> Taking more notice of completed aircraft empty weights of XS Europas,
> there have been many to come in a lot heavier than 750 pounds.
> 
> Flight testing on short wings I don't think exceeded 1370 pounds. 
> 
> I was wondering if those out there who flew at or over 1450 pounds could
> share weights, CG and how aeroplane handeled and general comments.
> 
> Especial interested in what it may have taken to wipe out Monowheel
> undercarriage and at what weight.
> 
> Also spin entry and recovery handeling, especial in thin air at more aft
> CGs. 
> 
> I learned (the hard way) from models, that a fair manured craft, can
> become a bear , in other words more easily enter a spin, and essential
> become unrecoverable if you make the air thin,or increase the weight.
> Sometimes a time honored CG is too aft for heavier weights, and acceptable
> control throws for a lighter weight are unacceptable for heavier weight.
> 
> Info on long wings at heavy weights also appreciated.
> 
> Thx.
> Ron Parigoris
> 
> Here in the US the builder can choose the gross weight. Not prudent to
> regularly fly a 1500 pound 912 XS out of a 1500 foot strip that has a high
> density altitude. For an occasional long flight with a intercooled 914
> with CS prop flying out @ sunrise from a wide mile long runway over
> reasonable hospitable terrain, near sea level at 60F sounds to be an
> acceptable practice? Problem is if you exceed gross weight listed in
> operating limitations, besides the potential for FAA to get on after you,
> even from a plain vanilla ramp check, Insurance coverage may be void. If a
> plane were ever to be sold, easy to go back into phase 1 and change gross
> weight limit.
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