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Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trigear Tires
From: Alan Burrows <alan@kestrelinsurance.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:45:32

Thanks Bob

Have a great time in Lapland ( isn't that place for kids!) "playing with
Santa" or whatever you are doing:-)

Alan

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R.C.Harrison
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trigear Tires


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Hi! Alan.
If you are running Europa originals I'm convinced the tube is slightly
bigger than the tyre so when you blow it up it makes some small creases
in the tube which makes it chafe on it's self. I'm now running a harder
compound squarer section tyre and have tubes that are for purpose. One
reason you may be getting more wear on Port is that it is the natural
way to turn on the ground so it gets all the work You need to make a
determined effort to turn clockwise as much as you can. Also if the
brake is only good on the port side the tyre will also get more work.
Haven't time to look what tyres and tubes I finished up with but "rattle
my cage" in the New Year and I'll dig the info out. Regards BobH


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Burrows
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trigear Tires

<alan@kestrel-insurance.com>

Bob

What is your problem with the tubes, is it anything I need to watch out
for when I turn the tyres?

Alan

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Hi! Alan
Yes, I change mine round a couple of times during heir lifetime because
you need to watch them like a hawk due to the spats.


Bob h  G-PTAG

-----Original Message-----
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Burrows
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<alan@kestrel-insurance.com>

Hi Bob

Whilst continuing the ongoing saga of trying to bleed my brakes (now
entering my 3rd month!) I too have noticed excessive tyre wear, mainly
on the outside of the port wheel. I am considering turning the tyre
around, what does the forum think? Merry Christmas to all

Alan Burrows


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
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R.C.Harrison
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Hi! Ira.
I've posted quite a lot of my like experiences. Suggest you look in the
archives. The problem is due to excessive toe in. IMHO it is likely to
have been improved had the toe in design been reduced to the bare
minimum with the a/c having wings fitted ,1/4 tank of fuel and an
average Pilot weight in the P1 seat. This factor is not only about tyre
wear but also must have a major effect on length of take off run due to
the rolling drag involved. I have considered a mod. to the gear leg
securing bolt and the gear leg socket but it will need some very clever
and finite engineering and a selection of some variable inserts to
adjust the rotational location of the gear legs and at present am galled
at being on my third set not withstanding the need to use incorrect size
tubes. 
Of course the story goes......."no one else is having a problem, you
must have set yours up wrong!"""""...... Been there got the damn "Tee
Shirt"..... Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300


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irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
Subject: Europa-List: Trigear Tires


I had a worn main gear tire blow this week end after about 75 h and
maybe 
200 landings.
Fortunately it blew in the hangar after landing and taxiing. The Seffner
wisdom is that this is about the best one can expect with the 
supplied tires
and landing on real terra firma, eq., concrete. 

I ordered Goodyear Flight Special II 6ply 500-5 and tubes from Desser
for 
over $200. total.
I will report back on the experience with these tires (although I hope
it 
will take more than a year!!)
Has anyone real-life experience with the other brands?


Has anyone tried swapping the 5" wheels to 6" wheels for better turf 
performance and the ability
to get "Monster" retreads with double the tread depth of cheap tires
(see 
http://www.desser.com/epdf/ACJuneFinal04-dtr.pdf )

Ira


Ira N224XS flying




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