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Re: Europa-List: Use of a Dynon in a Permit Aircraft

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Use of a Dynon in a Permit Aircraft
From: Duncan McFadyean <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:19:16

A point to consider would be WHERE the steam driven "back-up" instruments
are located. If on the S'bd. side of the panel, then they can hardly be the
primary instruments and wouldn't be very practical to use.

Of course I could have got this wrong; the EFIS is just a back-up, right?.


Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Use of a Dynon in a Permit Aircraft


>
> Peter,
>
> Thanks for the details.
>
> I can't see why Engineering approval is required - perhaps your Inspector
is
> confusing it with requirements when there are no old-style instruments?
You
> have the required minimum instrumentation without the Dynon (you dont
> mention a compass, but I assume you have that) for day VFR.
>
> If I were you, I'd call Engineering and ask them directly - and I'd be
> grateful if you could inform me of the outcome. If unnecessary impositions
> are being made on us by PFA Engineering, I'm very happy to take that case
up
> in EC and NC.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeremy
>
> Jeremy Davey
> Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
> Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
> PFA EC Member
> Tail done
> Standard XS wings with mods underway
> CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
> 1200 build hours to date
> Intended fit:
> Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
> Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Rees
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Use of a Dynon in a Permit Aircraft
>
<peter.rees05@ntlworld.com>
>
> Sorry, should have been clearer in stating my intentions - the AC
currently
> has an ASI, VSI, Alt and turn coordinator.
>
> It has no AH or DI.  I can either fit a vacuum kit and steam instruments -
> lots of weight and old fashioned or, save up for ever and buy electric
> instruments or put a Dynon in - light, modern and not essential to flight
> safety so if it does go U/S, not a safety issue.
>
> I'm hoping its not going to be an issue - just wanted to see what people
> though and of course if anyone has actually got one flying on a permit AC
in
> the UK.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Use of a Dynon in a Permit Aircraft
>
>
<EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> > Are you thinking of installing it instead of some the mandatory steam
> > gauges, or just as a supplement?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jeremy
> >
> > Jeremy Davey
> > Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
> > Tail done
> > Standard XS wings with mods underway
> > CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
> > 1200 build hours to date
> > Intended fit:
> > Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
> > Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Rees
> > To: europa-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Europa-List: Use of a Dynon in a Permit Aircraft
> >
> <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com>
> >
> > Just spoke to my inspector this evening about putting a Dynon EFIS into
> our
> > Europa. He says that it needs PFA approval. Does anyone know if this is
> > recognised as an acceptable unit to put in a permit aircraft?
> >
> > If so, how do I demonstrate to my inspector that its OK with the PFA so
> that
> > he can sign off the installation.
> >
> > If its not been recognised (but not specifically rejected by them in the
> > past), how do I go about proposing the unit.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > G-MFHI
> >
> >
>
>




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