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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:12:53
Raimo,
Yes, McCreary has probably been bought out, but they still have a phone 
number and are listed in Aircraft Spruce as a supplier.  The adds still 
say:  
"Located in Indiana, PA and Unicoi, TN, Specialty Tires is committed to 
producing high quality tires that are 100% Made in America."


I have had good luck with the Europa tubes which are bought through 
aircraft supply houses, however, I had good luck with the Asian made 
tractor tubes that were original in the mono kit too.  As I said in a 
past post, installation has much to do with a tubes longevity.  I know 
that if you grease the wheel rim, the tire can spin on the wheel and the 
tube doesn't last long at all, nor does the tire or wheel pant.  Ah the 
exuberance of youth and the desire to get in the air quick.

You are probably right that many tubes (and tires now days) are made 
overseas, maybe even by the same company that makes lawn tractor tires, 
but when you put the use on a tire or tube that says "airplane" you pay 
more, supposedly for the quality and or inspection standards but mostly 
for liability I'm sure.  Let's face it, your $600 alternator on a Piper 
can be bought with the same part number at an auto parts store for $60.  
But the auto parts store one doesn't say airplane.

Everything on my plane comes from an airplane manufacturer or supplier.  
Why risk a $100,000 investment on a $12 part.  

Regards,
Bud
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Raimo Toivio<mailto:raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
  Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:59 PM
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident


  Hi Bud

  and thanks for a nice comment.

  However

  Replacement Tubes:  Europa tubes are now made by McCreary and are for 
a 7-8 inch tire.  They are very well built, and have the exact 90 degree 
bend and placement of the valve stem for the mono's wheel.  They are 
about $130 each, and again worth every penny.  It is my experience they 
are changed only on puncture not wear.

  Are you sure they are McCreary=C2=B4s? On Europas sites they say only 
=9CTube =93 Mono =93 suits 7.00 and 8.00 tyres main 
tube =93 tba=9D.

  In fact there is not anymore a company named Mc Creary. Today it is 
known to be Specialty Tires of America, formerly known as McCreary Tire. 
I assume those McCreary /Specialty Tires of America tubes are made in 
Indonesian by Deli.
  American Racer Tires and its sister company Specialty Tires of America 
were originally known as the McCreary Tire & Rubber Company, founded in 
1915 in Indiana, Pennsylvania.

  ***

  Watch this:

  Hi Raimo.

    

  We have good quality, but Asian manufacture $21.95 each


  We have good luck with these.


  Hi Steven


  What is the brand name of Asian manufacture? Is it maybe a Deli from 
Indonesian?


  Wishes, Raimo


  Correct.  Deli Indonesia


  Best regards


  Steve


  I have had four incidents in four years with Deli. That means a case 
after every 50 flight hours /70 landings. You bet I will not have a Deli 
any more...

  Terveisin, Raimo

  ***

  So...no Deli any more. 

  ***

  I have asked Good Year=C2=B4s US General Aviation Sales Manager Robert 
Robson to find us the best available tube for Monowheelers. I will let 
you know the results. 

  As you maybe notice, this is a serious business for me.


  Raimo OH-XRT Finland


http://www.youtube.com/watchL?v=RAt9oj9eI3I<http://www.youtube.com/watc
hL?v=RAt9oj9eI3I>


  From: Bud Yerly<mailto:budyerly@msn.com> 
  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 6:41 PM
  To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident

  To all, and congrats to Raimo Toivio
  When preparation, proficiency and proper procedures meet a potentially 
catastrophic chain of events, the chain is broken and the aircraft, 
pilot and passengers all have a story to tell rather than being an 
accident statistic.

  Your thorough planning for tire changes in the field, spares, and most 
importantly a lovely and supportive wife makes the event a nuisance tire 
change out in the field, so I am hoping you bought your wife a great 
dinner and told her how much you appreciate her.

  As for tires and tubes, from what I can report from the US mono pilots 
that have shared their experiences with me here goes:

  Original Classic Equipment was an industrial 8 inch tire and tube.  
Cheap, strong but rather thin with squishy sides.  The clearances were 
minimal from the frame and cockpit module and during landing the brake 
caliper on a flat tire tore it up pretty quick.  About 2000 most guys 
started going with the 7 inch McCreary as a replacement around here.  It 
is narrower and of course a little lower.  The original tube was a bit 
thin but cheap at $35 for a lawn tire tube.

  Replacement Tires:  
  The McCreary 7 inch six ply seems to work very well with very long 
life.  This tire has more clearance from the frame, the wheel well, and 
its six ply sides is very stiff.  It is available through Europa or 
Aircraft Spruce (PN 06-09600):
  for about $130 US and is worth every penny.

  Replacement Tubes:  Europa tubes are now made by McCreary and are for 
a 7-8 inch tire.  They are very well built, and have the exact 90 degree 
bend and placement of the valve stem for the mono's wheel.  They are 
about $130 each, and again worth every penny.  It is my experience they 
are changed only on puncture not wear.

  Most taxi failures need a serious autopsy of the tube.  I have found 
with new clients that they pinch the tube or cut the stem.  Once the 
tire goes flat, it gets cut by the brake caliper.  We have gone to a 
full proof method here in the shop.  First we inspect the wheel for any 
burrs or sharp edges on the rim and especially on the valve stem.  We 
smooth these out if present.  Then thoroughly clean and dry the wheel. 
We cut card stock that fits the recess machined into the wheel and glue 
it in place with super glue dabs on one side only.  Then show the client 
how the wheels go together and to watch for the white paper in the wheel 
half split with an inspection mirror to make sure all goes together 
easily.  Then the tube is lightly powdered , inserted into the tire, 
aligned with the stem aligned with the dot (not always present) and 
slide the wheel into the tire.  Carefully align the tube stem and ensure 
the tube is not twisted.  Now carefully install the other wheel half and 
gently push the two halves together.  Insert bolts and pull up evenly.  
The tire is ready to inflate.

  A suitable lubricant for tire to wheel during installation is not axel 
grease according to the FAA maintenance folks.  There is no reason for 
lube on a well maintained rim free of dirt, corrosion etc.  If the tire 
will not go on the rim, use a proper lube such as Freylube or a mixture 
of dish soap and water with no more than 10% mineral oil.  Allow the 
solution to dry before putting the tire in use.  Petroleum lubricants 
between the tire and rim may cause the tire to rotate on hard braking or 
run-up (and the tire will rotate on the rim with a 914 at full blast 
with an Airmaster Prop), causing tube stem or tube failure.  Learn from 
my mistake.  Read Michelin's guide to tire installation:  
http://www.airmichelin.com/uploadedFiles/MichelinAirDev/StandardContent/R
esource/certification_level_2.pdf<http://www.airmichelin.com/uploadedFile
s/MichelinAirDev/StandardContent/Resource/certification_level_2.pdf>

  Great job Raimo,

  Regards to all,
  Bud Yerly
  Europa Tech Support
  Custom Flight Creations, Inc.
  www.customflightcreations.com<http://www.customflightcreations.com/>
  (813) 653-4989


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Raimo Toivio<mailto:raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> 
    To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
    Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:51 PM
    Subject: Europa-List: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident

    Dear All,

    it is a long time since I have been here. Today it happened 
something and I got an Europa Energy Burst (aka ENB) to write on the 
list. I think this could be useful info for most of you Europa (or any 
GA plane) operators. Let me tell you what was it and how it went:

    ***

    I have worked couple of years to make an Europa story to the largest 
All and Universal Technical Scandinavian Magazine which is published in 
the Scandinavian countries. I have had several flying experiences with 
their very speciall aviation editor. Today we decided to fly to one very 
remote airfield. Everything went as normally. 

    Please notice I have a Monowheel, The Most Sexy GA ever built.

    ***

    Just after a touchdown I

    - smelled a well burned rubber and then after
    - noticed immediately a strong autobrakeing
    - noticed immeadiately the position of the aircraft is not normal 
(too low and too leveled)
    - noticed a rumbling noise
    - noticed it is not *very* well steerable or att all and so we went 
out of the runway to the port side of the grass area

    We went out of the runway. That concrete runway 33 was quite narrow, 
just 6 metres or about 20 feets only. I understood at once what was the 
name of the game. During first seconds I was wondering if it (tha plane) 
will be inverted. The brakeing effect was so hard. After seconds I was 
wondering if I will lose only my prop (and engine) at least. It took 
only seconds. We stopped and I ask the editor how about if I will now 
switch off the fuel pump, electrics, engine, are you ok and how do you 
feel now?  

    What a story for a newspaperman! 

    The landing was very normal before the touch down. Let me say, I had 
completed 416 pcs of an Europa Monowheel landings and this was better 
than 8 (0-10) just before touch down . I (we) assume the tire/tyre was 
empty before landing. Not a big bang when landing at all, no no.

    ***

    During the years we (Europa Operators) have speculated what will 
happen when landing a mono with an empty tire /tyre. Now I /we know: If 
lucky nothing! My prop was still a virgin (configuration: Warp Drive 
blades with a wonderful Airmaster hub from NZ). The soil out of the 
runway was quite soft. There was still a clearance between the mother 
ground and the blades about 50 mm /2 inches. I kept the stick hard back 
during the landing. Some of you may remember I do love high speed 
landings like on final 70 knots and during a touch down around 60 knots. 
The brakeing effect was very strong because of an empty main (and only!) 
tire /tyre: it took only less than 100 metres /300 feets from touch down 
point to the final stop. Zero winds. Runway is a bit upphill.

    ***

    After I checked I am ok and my co-pilot was also ok and my plane was 
about ok I called bureacrats as they call to do in Finland immediately. 
The Police came and people from The Air Accident Investigators called 
me. That was an Finnish Army Airbase also. They came and tried to help 
us by giving some air to my empty wheel but do not succeeded because the 
inner tube was totally destroyed during the landing (just 300 metres 
---From us they =93 Finnish Army - were launching unmannned planes by 
steam catapult). 

    ***

    I called my loving (and sooo beautiful) wife and she took 
immediately the spare inner tube with her from our hangar and was 
heading by car with a trailer 200 km /125 miles to us. Without a special 
jacking block which I always carry with me it would have been impossible 
task to lift the Mono upp and take the wheel out and change an inner 
tube for a new one. All together it took 6 hours until we were flyable 
again. Let me say The Editor still wanted to fly with me back to EFTP. 
We completed some touches and goes to check would it be again empty or 
not. It was not. What a smile.

    Attached a pic =9Can accident place, my plane, my Wife and Mr 
Editor doing tire /tyre changeing jobs=9D. 

    ***

    Fuck! 

    I have operatored my Europa 4 seasons and this was my 4th case of an 
empty and a broken main wheel! This was a first experience during a 
landing. All the other cases have been during taxiing or so. Why?! I 
have an original size and a brand of an inner tube which is 8.00 
=93 7(6) which means it is ok for a size 7 and 6. They say so. I 
had two years an original outer tyre /tire which was like from a colf 
car but after earlier incidents I changed it for a real aircraft tyre 
/tire (brand name Air Trac). Always the hole has been in the side of the 
inner tyre. It has always been let me say about 10 mm /0,4 inches) long 
crack.

    I (I point *I*) assume that is the question of the bad quality of 
the Deli (made in Indonesian) innner tyres. 

    ***

    Let me and we all know the source for the high quality inner tubes 
please!

    Let me and all know is there any clever stuff to put inside of the 
inner tube *before* accident to prevent this kinds of accidents.

    We all know there are stuffs to put inside the inner tubes to make 
our day *after* it is empty. That is not a solution and nothing to do 
with a catastrophic failure when the crack is 10 mm or wider.

    I /we need a possibility to prevent this kind of (very stupid) 
not-so-purpose-to-happend-accidents.

    ***

    Monowheels pilots =93 please do not ever fly far away w/o a 
lifting block. That is a sensation.

    Thanks for Mr. Dirk van Oyen from Belgium (first time in use a day 
after a Maiden Flight =93 that was 30.04.2007).

    ***

    Thanks for this wonderful chance to share and make my day. 

    I have many topics to talk with you. Many questions to answer. Many 
things to do since the end of the last summer. I will come back. 

    Thanks you are there. All of you. 

    ***

    Specially Mr Kingsley from Oz and Mr Fred Klein from US.

    I am happy you are there.


    Cheers, Raimo Toivio


    Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417

    Updated flight hours /landings: 214,2 /418

    37500 Lempaala
    FINLAND

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    toivio@fly.to<mailto:toivio@fly.to>
    www.rwm.fi<http://www.rwm.fi/>



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