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Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: switch for Flap motor
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 15:23:20
Also, if you have a nice round hole already and the toggle switch type is t
he only thing you are complaining about consider this.
With the slow flap driver that has up and down limit switches, you have cho
ices.

ON  OFF  (ON)  is convenient for takeoff situations and those who milk thei
r flaps down.

ON  OFF  ON  is all that is necessary.  The Europa Trigear/Conventional fla
p positions frankly only need full up and full down for most flights.  =BD 
flap for takeoff from a soft field is nice or a bit of flap for a lower tak
eoff attitude is also comfortable.  Hence the momentary for the down is fin
e.

>From a maintenance standpoint, if your existing switch is a spade or screw 
terminal, just prewire the crisscross, pull the old, unscrew the switch and
 replace.  It=92s not rocket science.  Changing to a rectangular switch or 
some sort of custom arrangement is owners choice.  It just costs money and 
time to do anything you want.

Best Regards,
Bud Yerly

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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matr
onics.com> on behalf of Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 2:36:35 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: switch for Flap motor

John,

Since you are operating under the LAA, there should be a suitable mod appro
ved already for this.  If not, I guess you are prepared to blaze that trail
 yourself.

Here in the USA, I=92d go to B&C Aero to purchase the necessary switch:

https://www.bandc.aero/toggleswitch-doublepole.aspx

The switch you need would be the S700-2-1, top of the list to the right (-1
 ON-OFF-ON).  You would wire it the same way as the existing (ON)-OFF-(ON) 
switch already installed with your build.  The biggest problem would be cha
nging from the big rectangular hole of the existing switch to the nice litt
le round hole(s) of the toggle switch.

If you prefer to stay with a rocker switch, McMaster-Carr has them:

https://www.mcmaster.com/electrical-controls

One of these might make the change easier.

There=92s also ACS.  They probably have a suitable switch in their stock:

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/el/switches.html

There should be a source for any of these switches in the UK, but I wouldn
=92t know who that might be.  Perhaps one of your Europa mates will come to
 your rescue.

Lastly, why is it important to fuss so much with the flaps?  The Europa is 
designed to climb well with the flaps fully extended.  If things are a bit 
dicy with full flaps, you just take 3-4 seconds to get the flaps to 2/3 and
 then the climb has improved dramatically and you can take your time, 3-4 s
econds at a time, to retract the remainder of the flaps.

In any case, there are suitable alternatives to the Europa supplied spring-
loaded-to-off switch.

Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (130 hrs).
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP, Hercules Prop
.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX  76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com<mailto:rlborger@mac.com>

On Jan 20, 2019, at 3:21 AM, John Wighton <john@wighton.net<mailto:john@wig
hton.net>> wrote:

john@wighton.net>>

I would really like to change my =98hold up or down=99 flap but
tons for a 3 position switch. Retraction or full deployment takes around 12
 secs which is way too long to have your hands off the throttle.

Does anybody have information on how to modify the standard arrangement?

Regards
John

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John Wighton
Europa XS trigear G-IPOD


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