europa-list
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: Europa-List: Tinnerman washers on cowling

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tinnerman washers on cowling
From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:42:17
Greg=85I believe that conceptually, the tinnerman washer is designed to 
fit into a chamfered hole somewhat larger than the diameter of the 
fastener=85this will automatically bring the perimeter surface of the 
washer down to the surface of your cowl.  

I take it that when you use the word, =93flush=94, this is what you 
mean, given that the thickness of the tinnerman is so very thin.

If, on the other hand, you=92re ruminating on whether or not to recess 
the entire face of the tinnerman, I=92d venture to opine that you may be 
=93overhanging=94.

        (Whoops=85sorry=85that was meant to be =93overthinking=94, not 
=93overhanging=94.)

I have never examined a stock Europa cowl, but I do believe it is solid 
FG, not a foam core sandwich.

Fred

On Aug 21, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Greg Fuchs <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net> 
wrote:

> Just a quick addition here:
> One reason for the question of whether the tinnerman sits on or flush 
to the surface is to get the thickness of material between the two sides 
of the fastener just right. It seems to work best at  just the proper 
thickness. Any changes later would require re-doing the receptacle, 
requiring a lot of time. It might be an easier question to answer if I 
knew the cowl was built up with layers of glass only. Any less-dense 
filler between the inner and outer layers might compromise strength in a 
rebated but flush-set fastening system. With the cowl being all white, 
there is no way to see through. It seems to be all glass..I just cannot 
tell for sure, especially with some dimpling being seen around the 
clecos. I'd like to start placing fasteners today or tomorrow..
>  
> The Europa is quite a clean aircraft aerodynamically, with nice sleek 
lines and smooth skins, so I was envisioning an all-flat cowl fastening 
system (similar in concept to a flush-fitting screw head), but I have 
been told on occasion, that I am 'overthinking' something.
> Maybe this is one of those times?
>  
>  
> 
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Fuchs 

> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 3:44 AM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Tinnerman washers on cowling
> 
>  
> After countersinking the outer cowling to accept the center area of 
the tinnerman washers, is the outer surface of the washer meant to be 
proud of the cowling surface, or are they meant to sit flush? Though it 
may not cause too much drag, wouldn't it make sense to countersink the 
whole washer, or am I over-thinking it?
> If they are meant to be proud, has anyone set them flush and how did 
that work out?
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 



<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>