That is correct. In USA, Part 91.319 in FAR provides for compensation for a
flight instructor in your experimental aircraft.
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On Sep 17, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Curtis <cjaussi@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is my understanding that you can obtain flight training even for a PPL i
n your own experimental aircraft and pay the instructor. This would be a go
od question to ask EAA.
>
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> On Sep 17, 2012, at 7:38 AM, Peter Zutrauen <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote:
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>> In Canada it's my understanding that it's just an insurance question for h
ull coverage - which typically is not taken until their requisite number of h
ours is obtained.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Pete
>> A239
>> Ottawa, Canada
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com> wrote:
>> Svein, et. al.,
>>
>> Big old Catch 22 over here in FAA land. To do a proper checkout one must
have a CFI to do the instruction. The CFI normally will charge for their i
nstruction time. But one is not allowed to earn income through the use of a
n experimental amateur built aircraft. So try to find a qualified CFI with e
xperience in the transition aircraft who will do it for no charge.
>>
>> I happen to have a friend who is a CFI but is not a professional flight i
nstructor. He has given me and others proper checkouts in various experimen
tal amateur built aircraft for not charge. Guys like that are darn few and f
ar between over here.
>>
>> Blue skies & tailwinds,
>> Bob Borger
>> Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
>> Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
>> 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
>> Corinth, TX 76208-5331
>> Cel: 817-992-1117
>> rlborger@mac.com
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2012, at 2:46 AM, Sidsel & Svein Johnsen <sidsel.svein@oslo.on
line.no> wrote:
>>
>> NTSB issued in May a very interesting report on accidents with amateur-bu
ilt airplanes compared to certified airplanes, based on detailed evaluation o
f the numbers behind the summary statistics:
>> http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2012/SS1201.pdf
>>
>> One of their findings is that many more accidents caused by loss of contr
ol in the air happen with amateur-built than with certified airplanes, and t
hat a high percentage is with second-hand airplanes a short time after being
purchased. NTSB points to the fact that FAA do not follow the same practi
ce as many other countries do, in that FAA do not require a pre-approved tes
t flight program, nor approval of a report on the test flying (only a log bo
ok entry that test flight has been completed), which in turn may cause the p
ilot=99s operating handbook/flight manual to be lacking important airp
lane characteristics.
>>
>> What the NTSB report do not say anything about, however, is mandatory tra
nsition training and check out in the specific amateur-built airplane. Unde
r the joint European pilot license regime (JAR-FCL), we must receive such tr
aining and have it entered in our log book. This means that before we can f
ly the Europa we have built (unless approved by our CAA to perform the very f
irst flight) we must receive such airplane-specific rating, and also before w
e may pilot another Europa than our own, no matter how many hours we have lo
gged in our own plane and irrespective of all the similarities between two i
ndividual Europas.
>>
>> Therefore the following question to the American Europeans on this forum:
Before you can legally be the pilot of ANY experimental classed, amateur-b
uilt airplane, are you not required by FAA to receive transition training/ra
ting check-out by a pre-approved CFI or other experienced, approved person, e
ven for flying a =9Csister=9D airplane of the same type and mode
l that you may already be experienced in?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Svein
>> LN-SKJ
>>
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