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Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Motor glider Wings
From: Christoph Both <christoph.both@acadiau.ca>
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:54:38
Hello,
Having classic wings I was advised then to set the socket and classic forwa
rd wing lift pin exactly 12 mm lower than the original manual specifies. I 
just managed to do so before drilling the holes!
Cheers,
Christoph Both
#223 Classic (almost completed)
Nova Scotia, Canada


From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Neville Eyre
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Motor glider Wings

Hi,
The XS lift pins are [ from memory ] 1/2'' lower than the Classic.
Remove the pins with heat and Mole grips [ with a cloth wrap if you are goi
ng to re use the pins].Mask the root rib with thick card and alloy foil, ge
t the pin hot quick, and quench the root rib with a wet towel ASAP.
Grind the Bid off the face of the alloy plate stack with a B&D Fingerfile, 
keep grinding on the alloy to get heat into the plate, ping it off with a c
hisel. Keep going on the next two lots of Bid and plates.
Feather and scuff sand the glass lay up on the root rib.
Replace 3 new plates as per Manual.[XS] Drill / Tap for the pins as per Man
ual.
Fuselage;
Cut away the vertical stiffener [ foam / glass ] inside the cockpit, behind
 the lift socket.
Unbolt the lift socket from the fuselage, sweat off with heat.
The ''neat'' way now is to grind through the glass lay ups  on the inside t
o expose the alloy plate imbedded in the fuselage, and with the fingerfile 
sander, get heat into the alloy and dig that out, then replace the alloy / 
glass........ easy way is to fill the three holes with flox, a 4 Bid patch 
over the original plate, another plate , 4 Bid over the top of the plate, r
efer to Manual for the original instruction, usual deal regarding scuff san
ding / flox etc....
Fitting the socket to the fuselage is as per Manual, but it is a lot easier
 as with the drag pins engaged, and the spar pins in, there is no incedence
 setting to do.
Replace the foam core that was removed, repair the stiffener skin, overlapp
ing at least 2'' onto the original.
Sounds drastic, but not as bad as you might think.

-----Original Message-----
From: flyingphil2 <ptiller@lolacars.com>
Sent: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:09
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Motor glider Wings

to:ptiller@lolacars.com>>


That's an interesting question.  Has the Europa motor glider ever been flow
n by

any gliding pundits and reviewed?  I've not seen any.


Also, I seem to remember John or Roger at Europa telling me that that the

forward pin on the Classic wing would need moving (to the XS position????) 
in

order to take the glider wing.  I could be wrong but check that with the pe
ople

that know.  I'm sure Roger said there was a procedure in progress for it.


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