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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle
From: Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:09:31
Dear Graham,

that was a good one. But is was not reality this time: when I took power 
off during a long and high final, it was really off.

So it was a glide abroach but only because I wanted so (and the engine 
was idling).

Raimo OH-XRT Finland


From: GRAHAM SINGLETON 
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle

Could be Trev. One carb on fixed power and the other on variable 
therefore only smooth at one power setting. Must have been a glide 
approach when you got home Raimo?
Graham


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From: "Trevpond@aol.com" <Trevpond@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, 3 October, 2011 22:31:05
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle


Hi Raimo,

Sticky carbuerettor slide.

regards


Trev
G-LINN

In a message dated 03/10/2011 21:33:37 GMT Daylight Time, 
bill.sue@orcon.net.nz writes:
  Hi Raimo,

  I suggest your spinner cracked at the rear and lost a piece of metal 
or the retaining screw.

  Cheers from New Zealand
  ZK CHV
  MONO XS. 914. Airmaster.
  950hrs

Sue & Bill
  On 4/10/2011 8:49 a.m., Tim Ward wrote: 
    Hi Raimo,
    Yes I am Tim=99s daughter, Hannah, and my second guess is;
    Was the Airmaster Auto/Man switch left on Man for the Take-off?
    Cheers,
    Hannah

    Tim Ward,
    12 Waiwetu Street,
    Fendalton,
    Christchurch 8052
    New Zealand

    Ph; 03 3515166
    Mob; 0210640221

    email; ward.t@xtra.co.nz


    From: Raimo Toivio 
    Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 2:58 AM
    To: europa-list@matronics.com 
    Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle

    Hanna,

    are you sure you are Hanna or in fact Tim, Hanna=C2=B4s dad (who is 
going to try to win desperately the shipment from Finland) ? ;)

    If you really are Hanna; you may try 2nd time, because you are a 
pilot=C2=B4s daughter.

    Please read my first mail once again carefully: I wrote

    =9CSoon until well over the ground at altitude +500 feet with 
full power and 2nd fuel pump still on ... =9C

    Notice also, these words below are really essential info, something 
maybe to do with prop/pwr =93settings:

    =9CThose minutes were long: I put my prob (Airmaster CS) to 
manual and drived it from fine to coarse, tried all the power settings 
and also a 2nd fuel filter. Finally I noticed that when prop was in a 
climb mode (in my case 5400 rpm /Rotax 912S) and MAP around 20 inches I 
got quite a comfortable flying mode and I headed straight home.  
=9C

    ***

    All,


    One of you is now really close, physically say 50 mm /2" inches.


    Cheers, Raimo OH-XRT Finland 


    From: Tim Ward 
    Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:39 PM
    To: europa-list@matronics.com 
    Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle

    Raimo,
    Two thoughts.

    Fuel starvation with the fuel pumps not turned on for take off?

    Cheers,

    Hannah 

    Tim daughter
    Tim Ward 
    12 Waiwetu Street
    Fendalton,
    Christchurch,  8052
    New Zealand.

    ward.t@xtra.co.nz

    Ph 64 3 3515166
    Mob 0210640221


    On 3/10/2011, at 4:58 AM, "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> 
wrote:


      All

      I have got plenty of good guesses via list and also direct.
      Some of you have hoped I will not publish them with their names 
and do not worry I wont=C2=B4t.

      Graham =93 I /we got an empty message from you =93 
please retype it =93 I am sure it will be a good info.

      One of you have guessed the problem was because a broken de-icing 
rubber in the prop blade. That=C2=B4s good but unfortunately my Europa 
is so far still missing de-icing systems totally. They would be soon 
very useful in Finland.

      ***

      No one has so far found a reason for my vibra.

      So there are still a possibility to get an Xmas packet from 
Finland.
      I quarantee the shipment will be worth of making a good guess.

      ***
      Tips: 

      - the reason was off /on or black /white =93type and very 
easy to repair; it was fixed in seconds. 
      - when finally found it was not invisible at all. 

      Go On!

      Cheers, Raimo OH-XRT


          

      From: Raimo Toivio 
      Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 10:44 PM
      To: europa-list@matronics.com 
      Subject: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle

      All

      I have hope-so a nice riddle for you. 

      Maybe all the answers are useful =93 let=C2=B4s collect them 
all:

      ***

      Yesterday I took off from a very remote /small /windy (90 degrees 
12 knots and gusting MUCH) grass strip. Soon until well over the ground 
at altitude +500 feet with full power and 2nd fuel pump still on and 
gears up I felt suddenly let us say medium or more shake and vibration. 
My immediate reaction was to go around and land immediately but 
abandoned because wind was so furious and I felt I cannot do that (a 
succesful landing). 

      I decided to try to fly to the next possible sensible airfield 
EFHV which was 10 minutes apart.

      Those minutes were long: I put my prob (Airmaster CS) to manual 
and drived it from fine to coarse, tried all the power settings and also 
a 2nd fuel filter. Finally I noticed that when prop was in a climb mode 
(in my case 5400 rpm /Rotax 912S) and MAP around 20 inches I got quite a 
comfortable flying mode and I headed straight home. My airspeed was w 
that selection about 110 knots but because of a strong headwind GS was 
only about 70 knots (wanted to be clearly over the ground at 3000 ft 
because it was well over sunset and totally dark, yesterday we got 
sunset around 1600 Zulutime and time was well over 1630 when flying). 

      So, I pushed home one looooong hour. All the aerodynamics were 
well. I was a bit worried my engine will separate or so. When trying to 
push more pwr it was more vibra and when trying to pull less pwr same. I 
Followed a main highway and decided to land there if feeling so. Cars 
there with lights are almost like a lighted runway...

      Finally landing to the EFTP flawlesly.

      ***

      Today we had a FHGP (Family Hangar Grill Party). I tried to check 
my plane as well as I can. I found something. Very small evidence but 
something anyway. I tried to fix it and had a test run. I elected to go 
to fly =93 hey I am a test pilot who else =93 and She was 
better than ever!

      I managed to do 2 touches and goes when C172 did one with same 
runway.

      140 knots during downwind makes me always happy.

      ***

      So =93 dear Ladies and Gentlemen =93 what was wrong? 

      It would be nice and very life-useful to hear your opinions or 
guesses what was wrong.

      ***

      The Rules: one single guess per person, please.

      The Prize: The Best Guess will get a Very Special Xmas Present 
---From Finland!

      ***

      I will let you know a solution after a week =93 be patient.

      Have a nice weekend and


      Cheers, Raimo Toivio

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