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Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle
From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 00:14:40
Could be Trev. One carb on fixed power and the other on variable therefore 
only =0Asmooth at one power setting. Must have been a glide approach when y
ou got home =0ARaimo?=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___________________________
_____=0AFrom: "Trevpond@aol.com" <Trevpond@aol.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matro
nics.com=0ASent: Monday, 3 October, 2011 22:31:05=0ASubject: Re: Europa-Lis
t: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle=0A=0AHi Raimo,=0A =0ASticky carbueretto
r slide.=0A =0Aregards=0A =0A =0A =0ATrev=0AG-LINN=0A =0AIn a message dated
 03/10/2011 21:33:37 GMT Daylight Time,  bill.sue@orcon.net.nz =0Awrites:
=0AHi    Raimo,=0A>=0A>I suggest your spinner cracked at the rear and lost 
a piece of    metal or the =0A>retaining screw.=0A>=0A>Cheers from New Zeal
and=0A>ZK CHV=0A>MONO    XS. 914. Airmaster.=0A>950hrs=0A>=0A>Sue & Bill=0A
>On 4/10/2011 8:49    a.m., Tim Ward wrote: =0A>Hi Raimo,=0A>>Yes I am Tim
=99s daughter, Hannah, and my second guess is;=0A>>Was the Airmaster 
Auto/Man switch left on Man for the Take-off?=0A>>Cheers,=0A>>Hannah=0A>> 
=0A>>Tim      Ward,=0A>>12 Waiwetu Street,=0A>>Fendalton,=0A>>Christchurch 
8052=0A>>New      Zealand=0A>>=0A>>Ph; 03 3515166=0A>>Mob; 0210640221=0A>>
=0A>>email; ward.t@xtra.co.nz=0A>> =0A>>From: Raimo Toivio =0A>>Sent: Tuesd
ay, October 04, 2011 2:58 AM=0A>>To: europa-list@matronics.com =0A>>Subject
: Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration      Riddle=0A>>  Hanna,=0A>> 
=0A>>are you sure you are Hanna or in fact Tim, Hanna=C2=B4s dad (who is go
ing to      try =0A>>to win desperately the shipment from Finland) ? ;)=0A>
> =0A>>If you really are Hanna; you may try 2nd time, because you are a    
  pilot=C2=B4s =0A>>daughter.=0A>> =0A>>Please read my first mail once agai
n carefully: I wrote=0A>> =0A>>=9CSoon until well over the ground at 
altitude +500 feet with      full power =0A>>and2nd fuel pump still on ... 
=9C=0A>> =0A>>Notice also, these words below are really essential inf
o,      something maybe =0A>>to do with prop/pwr =93settings:=0A>> 
=0A>>=9CThose minutes were long: I put my prob (Airmaster CS) to     
 manual and drived =0A>>it from fine to coarse, tried all the power setting
s and      also a 2nd fuel =0A>>filter. Finally I noticed that when prop wa
s in a climb mode      (in my case =0A>>5400 rpm /Rotax 912S) and MAP aroun
d 20 inches I got quite a      comfortable =0A>>flying mode and I headed st
raight home.  =9C=0A>> =0A>>***=0A>> =0A>>All,=0A>> =0A>> =0A>>One of
 you is now really close, physically say 50 mm /2" inches.=0A>> =0A>> =0A>>
 =0A>>Cheers, Raimo OH-XRT Finland =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>>  =0A>>From
: Tim Ward =0A>>Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:39 PM=0A>>To: europa-list@
matronics.com =0A>>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration     
 Riddle=0A>>  Raimo,=0A>>Two thoughts.=0A>>=0A>>Fuel starvation with the fu
el pumps not turned on for take      off?=0A>> =0A>>Cheers,=0A>> =0A>>Hanna
h =0A>> =0A>>Tim daughter=0A>>Tim Ward =0A>>12 Waiwetu Street=0A>>Fendalton
,=0A>>Christchurch,  8052=0A>>New Zealand.=0A>> =0A>>ward.t@xtra.co.nz=0A>>
 =0A>>Ph 64 3 3515166=0A>>Mob 0210640221=0A>> =0A>>=0A>>On 3/10/2011, at 4:
58 AM, "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> wrote:=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>All=0A>>> 
=0A>>>I have got plenty of good guesses via list and also direct.=0A>>>Some
 of you have hoped I will not publish them with their names and        do 
=0A>>>not worry I wont=C2=B4t.=0A>>> =0A>>>Graham =93 I /we got an em
pty message from you =93 please retype it =93 I        am =0A>>
>sure it will be a good info.=0A>>> =0A>>>One of you have guessed the probl
em was because a broken de-icing        rubber =0A>>>in the prop blade. Tha
t=C2=B4s good but unfortunately my Europa is so        far =0A>>>still miss
ing de-icing systems totally. They would be soon very useful        in =0A>
>>Finland.=0A>>> =0A>>>***=0A>>> =0A>>>No one has so far found a reason for
 my vibra.=0A>>> =0A>>>So there are still a possibility to get an Xmas pack
et from        Finland.=0A>>>I quarantee the shipment will be worth of maki
ng a good guess.=0A>>> =0A>>>***=0A>>>Tips: =0A>>> =0A>>>- the reason was o
ff /on or black /white =93type and very easy to        repair; =0A>>>
it was fixed in seconds. =0A>>>=0A>>>- when finally found it was not invisi
ble at all. =0A>>> =0A>>>Go On!=0A>>> =0A>>>Cheers, Raimo OH-XRT=0A>>> =0A>
>> =0A>>>     =0A>>>From: Raimo Toivio =0A>>>Sent: Saturday, October 01, 20
11 10:44 PM=0A>>>To: europa-list@matronics.com =0A>>>Subject: Europa-List: 
Heavy In-flight Vibration        Riddle=0A>>>  All=0A>>> =0A>>>I have hope-
so a nice riddle for you. =0A>>> =0A>>>Maybe all the answers are useful 
=93 let=C2=B4s collect them all:=0A>>> =0A>>>***=0A>>> =0A>>>Yesterday I
 took off from a very remote /small /windy (90        degrees 12 =0A>>>knot
s and gusting MUCH) grass strip. Soon until well over the        ground at 
=0A>>>altitude +500 feet with full power and 2nd fuel pump still on        
and gears =0A>>>up I felt suddenly let us say medium or more shake and     
   vibration. My =0A>>>immediate reaction was to go around and land immedia
tely but        abandoned =0A>>>because wind was so furious and I felt I ca
nnot do that (a        succesful =0A>>>landing). =0A>>>=0A>>> =0A>>>I decid
ed to try to fly to the next possible sensible airfield EFHV        which 
=0A>>>was 10 minutes apart.=0A>>> =0A>>>Those minutes were long: I put my p
rob (Airmaster CS) to manual and        =0A>>>drived it from fine to coarse
, tried all the power settings and also a 2nd        =0A>>>fuel filter. Fin
ally I noticed that when prop was in a climb mode (in my        =0A>>>case 
5400 rpm /Rotax 912S) and MAP around 20 inches I got quite a        =0A>>>c
omfortable flying mode and I headed straight home. My airspeed was w that  
      =0A>>>selection about 110 knots but because of a strong headwind GS w
as only        =0A>>>about 70 knots (wanted to be clearly over the ground a
t 3000 ft because it        =0A>>>was well over sunset and totally dark, ye
sterday we got sunset around 1600        =0A>>>Zulutime and time was well o
ver 1630 when flying). =0A>>>=0A>>> =0A>>>So, I pushed home one looooong ho
ur. All the aerodynamics were well.        I =0A>>>was a bit worried my eng
ine will separate or so. When trying to push        more =0A>>>pwr it was m
ore vibra and when trying to pull less pwr same. I        Followed a =0A>>>
main highway and decided to land there if feeling so. Cars        there wit
h =0A>>>lights are almost like a lighted runway...=0A>>> =0A>>>Finally land
ing to the EFTP flawlesly.=0A>>> =0A>>>***=0A>>> =0A>>>Today we had a FHGP 
(Family Hangar Grill Party). I tried to check my        =0A>>>plane as well
 as I can. I found something. Very small evidence but        =0A>>>somethin
g anyway. I tried to fix it and had a test run. I elected to go to        
=0A>>>fly =93 hey I am a test pilot who else =93 and She was be
tter than ever!=0A>>> =0A>>>I managed to do 2 touches and goes when C172 di
d one with same        runway.=0A>>> =0A>>>140 knots during downwind makes 
me always happy.=0A>>> =0A>>>***=0A>>> =0A>>>So =93 dear Ladies and G
entlemen =93 what was wrong? =0A>>> =0A>>>It would be nice and very l
ife-useful to hear your opinions or        guesses =0A>>>what was wrong.=0A
>>> =0A>>>***=0A>>> =0A>>>The Rules: one single guess per person, please.
=0A>>> =0A>>>The Prize: The Best Guess will get a Very Special Xmas Present
 from        =0A>>>Finland!=0A>>> =0A>>>***=0A>>> =0A>>>I will let you know
 a solution after a week =93 be patient.=0A>>> =0A>>>Have a nice week
end and=0A>>> =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Cheers, Raimo        Toivio=0A>>>=0A>>><Eur
opa%20A2A-ala2OK[1].png>=0A>>> =0A>>>Europa        XS Mono OH-XRT #417=0A>>
>Updated flight hours /landings:        258,3=0A>>>=0A>>>37500        Lempa
ala=0A>>>FINLAND=0A>>>=0A>>>p +358-3-3753 777=0A>>>f +358-3-3753 100=0A>>>
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