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Subject: Europa-List: Re: Woodcomp after Sales Service
From: Mark Burton <markb@ordern.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:09:25

OK, let's put our thinking caps on and ponder switches and diodes.

We're only concerned here with the operation of the fine pitch limit switch and
its associated diode (incidentally, the SR3000 has two fine limit switches and
diodes in series so failures 1-4 described below have to occur to both 
switches/diodes,
likely?)

When the pitch is being reduced, the switch is carrying the current and the 
diode
is reverse biased. The current level is not high and well within the breaking
capability of the switch so it should open as expected and the pitch freezes
on the fine limit (+ some overrun).

Assuming that the switch has operated as it should, the pitch will now be fully
fine. When the controller next commands the pitch to go coarse, the switch is
already open so the diode will have to carry the current. That current can be
large as it's basically the pitch motor stall current (initially around 25-30A,
falling quickly as the motor spins up). Now the diode is only rated for 5A
continuous current but it has a good pulse capability (check the data sheet) so
it probably won't fail (we will talk about what happens if the diode fails next)
- assuming the diode did not fail and the pitch motor is actually moving,
the switch will close shortly afterwards. Exactly how much current will flow
through the switch is difficult to predict because we don't know how much the
motor has spun up so it could be quite a lot - mind you, there's only around 1V
across the switch (the diode drop) so I should think the switch could hack it
OK (perhaps with a reduced life).

Now, let's consider some failure modes:

1 - the diode fails open circuit - in this case, when the switch opens as the 
pitch
goes fully fine the pitch will freeze at that point (+ some overrun) and
when the controller tries to coarsen the pitch nothing will happen because the
switch is open and the diode is open too. Therefore, the end result will be the
prop will be stuck in fully fine. But, this would not cause the C/B to pop.

2 - the diode fails short circuit - in this case when the switch opens as the 
prop
reaches fully fine, the pitch motor keeps going and will drive the pitch all
the way to reverse position (and the reverse switch would operate). If the
controller subsequently tried to coarsen the pitch, it would succeed unless the
diode decided the current was too much and died in which case the pitch would
freeze. Now as it has been reported that the pitch of the prop was not in the
reverse position this probably didn't happen. Again, the C/B would not blow.

3 - the switch fails open circuit - the pitch will not be able to reduce, only
coarsen. C/B still intact.

4 - the switch fails short circuit - similar to 2 above, pitch could go to 
reverse.
C/B still a happy bunny.

5 - there is a short circuit from one of the switches/diodes/wires to ground -
now this is interesting: it could  make the pitch go to the reverse position and
then when the controller tried to move the pitch the other way it would blow
the C/B. But as it's already been stated that the pitch was near the flyable
region that makes this scenario unlikely but not impossible. 

So, from what we know about the accident, the only one of these failures that 
could
have occurred is a short from one of the pitch motor drive wires to ground
(either the wire itself or a switch/diode/motor failure). Is that likely, I
don't know, but I reckon you could poor a bucket of water into a microswitch and
it's not going to conduct substantial amounts of current to ground (sea water
would conduct better).

So, Jos, that's why I don't have much to say about the quality of the diodes and
switches because apart from them physically flying apart and causing a short
circuit to ground, I can't see how they could be responsible for the reported
chain of events. 

Regards,

Mark


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