Hi Fred,
Indeed it is an industrial process on the loose piece-parts in
temperature/pressure controlled chambers filled with controlled volumes of
Fluorine. Different parameter combinations for different levels of
fluorination (they have 9 different levels). They typically are set up to
do large mfg runs of auto gas tanks, plastic gerry cans, shampoo bottles
etc.etc. so I'm eating a minimum charge (which they somewhat reduced for
me) which is distasteful but understandable, and worth my piece of mind
(hopefully preventing me from potentially hacking out my tank 5-10 years
down the road.). If I had 4 tanks or so, I could have done it much more
cost effectively.
They have 4 facilities which can do the Auto-tank level, and I chose their
Atlanta plant for it's relative proximity.
I'll keep folks posted how it goes and can provide contact info for any
interested.
Cheers,
Pete
A239
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Since your tank is yet to be installed, I expect that you will be taking it
> somewhere for treatment. As one w/ an installed but yet to be filled w/ fuel
> tank of similar vintage, I'm wondering about the treatment you anticipate
> and how it is done...(?)...Is it something which conceivable could be
> accomplished on an installed tank if the fuselage were trailered to a
> facility which does this sort of thing?
>
> I wouldn't expect the treatment would be offered at the neighborhood
> "gaairage" (phonetic sp.? lol), but I've no idea what type of facility does
> this sort of work...do you live near a factory which supplies the auto
> industry?
>
> Please keep us posted on this,
>
> Fred
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Peter Zutrauen wrote:
>
> thanks all for the info/links. Looks like mine *should* have been done,
> but since I still don't know to what level, I decided to go get it done
> again, this time to automotive level standards.
>
> Based upon the softness of the tank material, I presume it is LDPE.
>
> Cheers & thx,
> Pete
> A239, building finally starting in earnest.
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Jan de Jong <jan_de_jong@casema.nl>wrote:
>
>>
>> Introduction of fluorination was in April 1997:
>>
>> http://www.sarangan.org/www/mhonarc/mharc/html//europa-list/1997-08/msg00096.html
>>
>> I have assumed that my tank from the year 2000 was treated and did not
>> repeat it. In any case any spilt epoxy bonds to it extremely well (as well
>> as to itself) - which is supposed to be a side effect of fluorination.
>>
>> Jan de Jong
>>
>>
>> craig bastin wrote:
>>
>>> my kit is from 2000 as well, and i asked the factory (before the merger)
>>> back in 2008 if my tank fell into the post non fluorinated time frame, and
>>> they
>>> responded this after i indicated the desire to purchase a new fluorinated
>>> tank. so based on what i was told i would believe yours should be ok. If its
>>> not
>>> much cost involved the second treatment would probably be a good
>>> investment.
>>> regards
>>> craig
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of
>>> *Peter Zutrauen
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 11, 2010 4:43 AM
>>> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
>>> *Subject:* Europa-List: Europa fuel tank - LDPE or HDPE?
>>>
>>> Would anyone know which it is? (I think I had heard LDPE)
>>>
>>> I am asking because I am about to spend some money getting my
>>> still uninstalled tank Fluorinated or Re-Fluorinated - since I
>>> cannot be sure to what level it was done by the Europa factory (if
>>> it was done at all back in 2000) and I wish to avoid the swelling
>>> and cracking problems some are seeing in service.
>>>
>>> I am choosing to Fluorinate to the same level (AL) as the auto
>>> industry (by Fluoro-Seal International LP)
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Pete
>>> A239
>>> Ottawa Canada
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