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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Ditching checklist
From: Martin Boyle <martinboyle53@bigpond.com>
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 07:00:21
The way we were taught in Australia was to touch with one wheel and the 
wing tip 
This than makes the aircraft turn to that direction and enersa will 
cause the other side of the plane to ditch into the water and uses the 
wing to stop it from rolling 
Also if you go straight in and the plane rolls forward you will wear the 
windscreen in your face at great speed not pretty 

Martin Boyle 
North QLD Australia
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Raimo Toivio 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 4:22 AM
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Ditching checklist


  They say it would be a good practise to lock the wheel[s] by brakeing 
before ditching.
  So the gear will act a little bit longer as a water ski before 
sinking.

  With mono, I would take the flaps and gear out to lower the speed and 
to get a normal landing attitude.
  When the flaps hit water masses w speed of say 40 knots, they will act 
as a water brake for a while and separate I assume almost immediately.

  My boat=C2=B4s top speed is around 58 knots and when jumping from one 
wave to another wave I am happy it=C2=B4s stern is 2 inches thick 
laminate.

  When moderate or more waves (and wind): would you still prefer to land 
headwind (and towards waves) or do you elect maybe landing sidewind (and 
90 degrees to waves)?  


  Raimo OH-XRT


  From: GRAHAM SINGLETON 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:41 PM
  To: europa-list@matronics.com 
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Ditching checklist


  The mono is much less likely to dig in, think of the pitching moment 
that the gear exerts as it hits the water. 
  Graham


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  From: Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilotsnl>
  To: europa-list@matronics.com
  Sent: Tuesday, 4 May, 2010 15:26:36
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Ditching checklist

<frans@privatepilots.nl>

  On 05/04/2010 03:13 PM, rampil wrote:

  > For the case of the trigear, one can only imagine a worse case.
  > It seems unlikely that a trigear can be prevented from digging
  > in at the nose and possibly cracking the canopy.

  Why does it seem that? Statistics show that tri gear aircraft have no
  higher tendency to nose over than rectractables. Unless the Europa has 
a
  feature not found on other tri gear airplane, I don't think it is 
worse
  than comparable aircraft.

  Contrary, I think the monowheel is worse in this aspect. It has a
  tendency on land already to nose over if you brake firmly, and I don't
  see why this would be different on water.

  With the tri gear, before the nose is able to touch the water, the 
gear
  has dissipated already quite some of the energy (either due to drag in
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