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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Aileron deflections
From: Jan de Jong <jandejong@casema.nl>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:14:45

Just a remark - tungsten welding electrode is an efficient mass with 
almost twice the density of lead.
Jan de Jong

Karl Heindl wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Bud,
>  
> Thank you for the advice. I am almost there. I didn't have to shave 
> the weights, and the ailerons are in balance. More adjustments will be 
> necessary after paint, but I left holes and, as you suggest, I can add 
> more weight behind the lead . At the moment I can't tell the 
> difference between left and right, and up and down. When the left 
> aileron is neutral, the right one is slightly up. So I extend the 
> inboard pushrd, and the aileron moves up even more. Maybe it will make 
> more sense tomorrow. Time for a beer.
>  
> Regards,   Karl
>
>
>  
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> From: budyerly@msn.com
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Aileron deflections
> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:11:20 -0400
>
> Karl,
> The roll rate on the MG is a bit disappointing to me as a short wing 
> flier so I go for the maximum.  In the event you need it during a wake 
> turbulence recovery or near miss, it's imperative to have full authority.
>  
> Most always I build my weights out of foam and glue them on the 
> leading edge to get the throw I need plus a little for filler and 
> glass.  Then I make the weight arms final.
>  
> Only if you build the wing perfectly do the existing weights work.  So 
> far my batting average is 50%.
>  
> As for the fix.  Die grind the things down to get the down you need.  
> Reglass over the top.
>  
> Now drill a hole in the foam area behind the weight and add more 
> lead.  I mold some round slugs a half inch diameter and just slide 
> them in to a floxed hole and touch up the hole with flox and filler.
>  
> The up limit is most probably the filler on the top of the aileron.  
> Sand the wing skin back until you get to the point where the build in 
> stop on the aileron is the limit again. 
>  
> Doesn't take long.  And by now the touchup is a breeze.  Just another 
> day in the shop.
>  
> Bud
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Karl Heindl <mailto:kheindl@msn.com>
>     *To:* europa-list@matronics.com <mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
>     *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2009 8:48 PM
>     *Subject:* Europa-List: Aileron deflections
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>
>     I am currently rigging my glider wings, hopefully for the last time.
>     In the workshop I measured the aileron down deflection to be 20
>     degrees , it is supposed to be 20 down and 23 1/2 up.  Now I
>     measure a maximum of 18 and 16 for down, and about 30 up.
>     My question is : is it really important to stick to the figures in
>     the book, or is it the sumtotal of up plus down when making a
>     turn. These dreaded lead weights are the reason for the down
>     restriction and I would prefer not having to shave them down.
>     Any ideas ?
>      
>     Karl
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