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Re: Europa-List: Ducatti Rectifier/Regulator

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ducatti Rectifier/Regulator
From: GTH <Gilles.Thesee@acgrenoble.fr>
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:14:39

josok a crit :
>
> Gilles,
>
> With all respect to your students work, it's always a good idea to check if 
> the
numbers add up. From the top of my head, with  (low quality) thyristor junction
loss of 0.6 V at 20 A makes for 12 watts to dissipate, not 80 as "actually
measured". Add 10 watts for the rest of the components and we are still far
---From the "actual measured" figure. Common sense also tells me that 80 watts 
dissipation
would make this item scalding hot in minutes.  20 W also is more in
line with the Rotax idea of ambient temperature. Where is the mistake?
>
>   
Josok and all,

When I was working on our project some years ago, there was a lot of 
hangar tales about the Rotax regulator and wiring. The only hard fact I 
could rely upon was that several of my buddies, and some Europa builders 
experienced failures, and that the Rotax 914 was electrically dependent.
This is why I started some investigations concerning the unit and 
designed some redundancy into the wiring.
Among other things we dicovered :

- The efficiency of the unit is not great, and its thermal 
characteristics are poor
- Cooling will definitely improve matters.
- The unit wont start to life unless the c wire senses some voltage, so 
there are failure modes where the regulator will stall and stop 
supplying current to the ship, rendering the Rotax circuit suggestion 
unsuitable for the 914.
- Asking more than 12 amps continuous from the unit seems not reasonable.

The numbers have been actually measured, in a very well known and 
reputable electricity lab (LEG and IUT 1 in Grenoble) with professional 
equipment.
The numbers you give seem remarkably low, so maybe the unit you measured 
is a different model ? Rotax may have modified his regulator, after all...

Of course, everyone is invited to check the numbers and facts, and I 
would be glad to publish the results of other experiments to complement 
the article.

Best regards,
-- 
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr



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