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Subject: Europa-List: Re: Jabiriopa performance numbers
From: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:22:09
In a message dated 9/24/2007 2:58:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
europa-list@matronics.com writes:

Would you care to share any precise speed measurements (3 GPS runs,  max 
take off weight, record of altitude, OAT, etc.) ?
My Jabiru buddies  are getting soooo discreet when it comes to actual 
performance  ;-(

Hi Gilles, 

Sure, I've done many, many speed measurements, especially lately with all  
the flow testing I've been doing on the wings and I'm happy to share my  
numbers.  Mine is a trigear with an empty weight of 909lbs.  The C of  G is a 
little

over 60". Typically what I see on a 75F day is 134 kts in cruise  at 2850 rpm 
at 3500' burning 4.6gph according to my Grand Rapids fuel flow  meter. One 
recent cross country flight I saw a TAS of 148kts at 7500' at  the same throttle

setting. This is with a fixed pitch Sensenich hollow  carbon prop pitched as 
far as I can go and still operate safely out of my  2200' strip, 700' msl, with

two on board, full fuel and baggage. I don't  pay much attention to MAP, 
though, since there isn't much I can to about it  without being turbo 
normalized.

I did close off the overflow holes completely on  the Jab air intake in an 
effort to maximize MAP.

I have flown at 1450 lbs gross on several occasions and I'm still  climbing 
in the neighborhood of 1200-1300 fpm. If I back off to 2650 RPM,  I cruise at 
125kts and my fuel burn goes down to 3.8- 4.0  gph. I have worked hard on 
getting the mixture well balanced between  the cylinders by playing with the 
needle

jet and needle setting, as well as the  float level in the carby. I''ve also 
twisting the carby slightly left from  vertical to even out the mixture.  I 
now have EGT's all within  about 40F of each other and my plugs are a nice tan

color. I also am running the  Iridium plugs now with great success. This engine

will idle at about 500  rpm with the Iridium plugs and still maintain about 
22psi  OP.  I believe I have a handle on the cooling thing on all but the  
hottest days, and then it's only an issue in extended climbs on the #4 cylinder.

FWIW, these are the same days my Rotax buddies also have shown cooling  issues

in a variety of different applications, including the Europa. I did fit a  
larger oil cooler than what came with the engine. That proved to work very well.

 I never see oil temps over 190F, even on the hottest days. Fuel burn is very 
 comparable to the 912s, too.

I don't know what it is that these other Jabiropa builder/fliers are doing  
wrong, though.  I would go so far as to say that the Jabiru is  superior in a 
lot of ways over the 912s, particularly in terms of how smooth the  engine runs

and of course, price. Contrary to the blather that has been spread  about the 
Jabiru/Europa combo on a variety of forums, I firmly believe the  Jabiru is a 
fine alternative to the Rotax 912s, provided you follow Jabiru  
recommendations and undoubtedly it's a hell of a lot cheaper than  the 912s on
this side of 
the pond. The parts are also  considerably cheaper, too. I'm really looking 
forward to the day when  Airmaster finally releases the new hub that fits the 
Sensenich blades.

IMHO, I don't think the Jabiru factory cowl set fitted to the Europa  is 
going to work very well, though. I think it has to do with the "D" shape  of the

intake holes. I think Andy Silvester/Suncoast  has the right  combo on his cowl

set with the round intake holes, but I think the head cooling  ducts he sent 
with the engine leave a little bit to be desired. They're  made from 
fiberglass and they tend to soften from engine heat. That has proven  to be a 
problem

and one that has caused some minor maintenance  issues. I'm not sure the left 
duct is the right shape, either. I'm  playing with Sonex style sheet metal head

ducts now, but they are proving to be  a real bitch to fit their odd shape to 
the 4" round inlets. My "proof of  concept" version is going to have a lot of 
duct tape involved! I  should have a left duct fitted later today unless it's 
soarable again. ;-) More  testing will follow and I suspect that I will run 
much cooler even on hot  days once I have them fitted. If it works as well as I

anticipate, I'll whip out  a final version and probably make a right side 
metal duct, too.

 The Sonex boys seem to have all the cooling issues licked, so that's  the 
reason I'm trying what they do in terms of head cooling ducts to  achieve a 
better balance on the CHT's on really hot days and in extended  climbs. Below 
90F

I never see CHT's over 280F on either side, though, and  usually in the 
240-250F range. Jabiru recommends 302F CHT max for extended  runs and 348F is 
max

for short periods, like in climb. I will see 320F on #4 on  a hot day in climb,

but it quickly cools to 285F or so once I establish cruise.  The rest stay 
below 300F.

And before anybody chimes in and tells me I don't know what I'm talking  
about when it comes to the Rotax and so everybody will know I'm not pulling my

Rotax numbers out of the air, I also own an Aeromot AMT 200S Super Ximango  
motorglider with a certified 912s installed swinging a Hoffman 3 position  prop.

So, I do side by side comparisons regularly and I'm very familiar with the  
numbers on both engines. I have about 135 hours now in the Ximango and  117 or
so 
in the Europa, so plenty of time to compare numbers. FWIW, I like  the 912s, 
but it is very complicated compared to the Jabiru and it shakes like  hell 
when you first crank it up. The Jab is much easier to crank when cold.  It just

roars to life after a few swings of the blades without  all the shaking and no

choke is ever needed, even on cold days. I think the  Jabiru is quieter, too. 
We tested it with dB meter and my neighbor's lawn mower  is louder than the 
Jab at take off power at similar distances.

Graham, in regard to your question, I already sent some Jabiropa guys  over 
your way a fairly extensive overview of what I've done. Is there something  
specific that they need to know? I'm happy to share and I've got tons and tons

of pictures.

Regards,

John Lawton
Whitwell, TN (TN89)
N245E - Flying



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