Jeremy
It was idling. Has anyone got any other data?
Regards
Willie
On 19 Jun 2007, at 11:27, Jeremy Davey wrote:
> Willie,
>
>
> Was John=92s demonstration with the prop stopped, or engine idling?
> It=92s my understanding that a stationary prop (particularly one
> which is not feathered) significantly increases the rate of descent.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Harrison
> Sent: 19 June 2007 10:57
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Incident - 180 turns
>
>
> Who knows what all the factors were in this tragic incident.
> However, it highlights the issue of turning back to the runway.
> John Brownlow, who did my conversion training for the Europa, told/
> showed me that you can do a safe 180 turn back from 300 feet (much
> lower than for many types). I practised a few times. I think I'll
> practise a few more times.
>
>
> The early news reports suggested that the crash aircraft was
> between 200 and 300 feet when it turned back.
>
>
> Willie
>
>
> On 19 Jun 2007, at 01:45, Tom Friedland wrote:
>
>
> A bit of information. Ken was very experienced and an airforce
> c-130 pilot/instructor. He flew his Europa frequently like once a
> week.
>
>
> He took off West into the prevailing wind and to the West there is
> a large golf course under the approach to the runway. The crash
> site is between the runway and the golf course.
>
>
> It seems strange. A pilot with his experience and one would think
> if he had an engine failure that he would elect the natural
> emegency site ahead. Can that mean that there was a control
> failure or perhaps a sudden medical cause? We may never know.
>
>
> Tom
>
>
> On 6/18/07, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
>
> Dave and Dale,
>
> I offer my most sincere condolences to you and all the friends and
> family of Ken Hill and his passenger. Since you two appear to have had
> personal relationships with Ken, I hope you will continue to share any
> information on the accident with the Europa community.
>
> Fred
>
> >
> > After reading about the crash, I called my friend Ken Hill who flies
> > out of Livermore. His wife Sandy, who was sobbing, told me it
> was,
> > in fact, her husband Ken who had died in the crash. Ken was a
> > terrific guy, former military pilot with a lot of hours. Another
> > terrible loss.
> > Dale Hetrick
>
> On Sunday, June 17, 2007, at 09:44 AM, David DeFord wrote:
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > Ken had long range tanks, which could have been installed at the
> time
> > of the crash. Here is a description of the tanks, which he posted
> > about a year ago:
> >
> > The tanks are 6 gal. Evinrude Johnson "Duratank" from the local boat
> > dealer. I use quick disconnect fittings from Europa and the pump is
> > Facet 40105 from Aircraft Spruce. The tanks are strapped to the wing
> > tie bar for restraint.
> >
> > I last saw Ken's airplane in his garage about a year ago, not long
> > after his return from a long trip, and the tanks were in the
> airplane
> > at that time. Whether he left them thereat all times, I don't know,
> > nor can I comment on the crash worthiness of the tie-downs he
> used to
> > hold them in place. I am only suggesting that the fire in this
> > accident might not be representative of what is likely to happen to
> > other Europas in a similar crash. (Third-hand accounts I have heard
> > of the accident say that the impact was nearly vertical.)
> >
> > Dave DeFord
> > N135TD
>
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