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Re: Europa-List: Anyone install battery aft of baggage bay bulkhead?

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Anyone install battery aft of baggage bay bulkhead?
From: gdh <gdh@isp.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:02:17

Nigel,
Good info!
Thanks,
Dale
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "nigel charles" <nwcmc@tiscali.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anyone install battery aft of baggage bay 
bulkhead?


>
> It is too easy to get carried away adding weight to the aircraft. This
> was especially a problem when the MTOW was only 1300lb. Just how
> important it is depends a lot on pilot and passenger weights. If you can
> carry at least 50lb baggage and full fuel with 2 people on board and
> stay within MTOW the use of the Europa as a cruising has not been
> compromised.
>
> When it comes to allowing for weight of fuel be aware that many of the
> fuel tanks expand with age. My tank started off with a 69 litre
> capacity. It now holds 76 litres. This is good for range (about another
> 25 minutes flying) but it does add about another 5lb to the fuel weight.
>
> Regards
>
> Nigel Charles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
> McAllister
> Sent: 23 September 2006 13:49
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anyone install battery aft of baggage bay
> bulkhead?
>
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Nigel,
>
> I used #4 welding cable which was nice and flexible and not very
> expensive,
> but I remember when I was bringing the 25' roll home thinking "darn this
> stuff weighs a lot"
>
> I suspect that the thick flame proof rubber insulation added a weight
> penalty over the cable you used.  I really wished I weighed it at the
> time..... maybe I'll buy  a short section and do a rough calculation.
>
> I tried to pay attention to weight in my aircraft, it came out at 860lb,
> about average for a 914 mono, but I often think until you have built an
> aircraft you really don't have a great appreciation of its importance.
> Some
> people have built 914 monowheels that have come in at 790 lbs..... I
> sure
> wish mine weighed that.
>
> I look forward to seeing your calculations of the "battery in the back"
> weight trade off.
>
> Regards,  Paul
>
>
>>No for the following reasons:
>
>>1. I already had some a/c quality #4 cable, as used with C130 a/c
>>generators.
>>2. The oval plastic ducting available for domestic house electrics in
>>the UK provides a perfect fit to enable end feeding the cable from the
>>battery to the engine bay.
>>3. As the total weight penalty was about 1.5lb then the difference
>>between types of cable wasn't going to be significant.
>
>>Thanks for the info. I will bear it in mind for any future projects.
>
>>Nigel
>
>
> 



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