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RE: Europa-List: wheel landings [was: Flying a heavy Europa XS?]

Subject: RE: Europa-List: wheel landings [was: Flying a heavy Europa XS?]
From: Alan Burrows <alan@kestrelinsurance.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:25:38

Gosh and I thought it was something to do with wheelbarrows :-)

Alan

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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Parkin
Subject: Re: Europa-List: wheel landings [was: Flying a heavy Europa
XS?]


--> <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>

Trying to remain unemotional and logical !!!!!!!!

You are obviously a late comer to the Europa fraternity, when many of us

started building - training wheels/stabilisers were not an option.

> I remain completely baffled as to why so many Europa pilots have 
> chosen
> the
> mono over the trigear when given  a choice.  There is absolutely zero
> performance advantage to the mono, in rate of climb, in cruise speed,
in
> fuel burn, or whatever.

With respect this statement is complete unadulterated rubbish!!  Ask
Andy 
Draper why on X-country they always flew with the tri-gear fuel state in

mind.  Answer - it always ran out of fuel before the monowheel.  I have
yet 
to fly with a tri-gear that can out climb or out cruise my monowheel.

  The difference is that the mono is inheritantly
> unstable in landing (and takeoff) configuration.  Everyone (almost) 
> else
> in
> the aircraft business, both large and small, has abandon the
taildragger
> design, and no one else is building mono wheel planes.  For the life
of me 
> I
> cannot understand why Ivan thought he could be successful when the
rest of
> the world says it's an unstable design.  The proof is in the results.
> Europa mono's are ground looping, wheelbarrowing, bending props,
running 
> off
> the tarmac, and generally destroying themselves with regularity.
Perhaps
> that is a smart marketing strategy........to design a product that 
> requires
> regular parts replacement and rebuilding, but as a pilot I'm not 
> impressed.

The original design concept was to produce an aircraft that could
operate 
---From an short, unprepared farm strip.  The same aircraft should be able
to 
cover distance at a good speed and be kept at home on a trailer -
avoiding 
hangarage costs.  Ivan achieved all those points with style - it is fact

that experience has shown that a monowheel can be operated from some
strips 
that would be a no-go with a tri-gear.
It is true that if it is mis-handled, the monowheel is likely to bite
back. 
I have only witnessed one major Europa incident and that was a tri-gear
that 
entered into a PIO and wiped out the prop and the nosewheel on the third

bounce - fortunately the crew walked away unharmed.

> I do acknowledge that there are a few among our ranks who get a 
> certain thrill out of placing themselves in danger on every flight, 
> and love the challenge of taming a wild and unpredictable beast.  It 
> makes for good chest thumping and bragging rights at the local pub, 
> but might I suggest that you
> take up the (American) sport of bull riding.  It's probably safer and
more
> satisfying than trying to land a mono.  I'm not trying to stir up the 
> ranks,
> but simply trying to understand the motivation of choosing an unstable
> design over a proper one.

A wild and unpredictable beast  -- oh pleeeease !!!! all it requires is 
average skill and a little practice.  Thats why people choose to fly a
Pitts 
or an RV - or perhaps the ultimate a Mustang or a Spitfire.  If all you
want 
is a safe aircraft, then why not stick with a wallowing SpamCan.

  Both Europas are fabulous planes in the air, but
> one operates on the ground in a proper fashion while the other acts 
> like a drunk and wounded gooney bird.  Let's hear some logical and 
> unemotional arguments in favor of the mono.
>
> Trigear pilot

You may be right in what you say, but as someone else commented - a 
monowheel in flight looks sexy.  Have you ever tried handling a
monowheel or 
do you just criticise from a distance.


signed  Monowheel Pilot  (Slightly twisted, living on the edge with 
absolutely no sense at all  -  BUT IT IS FUN!!)



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