In einer eMail vom 04.01.2005 06:20:42 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt
M.Grass@comcast.net:
Karl,
yes you are right. Sorry no diesel, it has a dual electronic ignition. For
some reason I must interpreted the constant toque over speed diagram and the
low fuel consumption as a diesel but reading the article again it is
defiantly not a diesel. The Engine still looks very interesting.
Michael Grass
----- Original Message -----
From: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Firewall choice and Rotax Engine order options
>
>
> The M160 looks promising, but I can't find any reference that this is a
> Diesel.
>
> Karl
>
>
>>From: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net> Reply-To:
>>europa-list@matronics.com To: <europa-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re:
>>Europa-List: Firewall choice and Rotax Engine order options Date: Mon, 3
>>
>>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
>>
>>A happy new year and a thank you to all who have a replied to my
>>questions.
>>
>>It for sure did not made my decision much easier but I still will likely
>>to
>>go with the 914 engine. At present, I can not come up with an economical=20
>>or
>>logical rather an emotional decision. Logical would be to buy an aircraft
>>Economical would mean to rent an aircraft. Emotional means to put in the
>>smoothest engine with the most power and altitude capabilities I can
>>afford.
>>
>>BTW, for all those who feel the need to go with an automotive engine,
>>there
>>is a German engineer working on an conversion engine from the European
>>SMART car. This engine is a turbocharged and fuel injected 82 hp diesel
>>engine with only 11 lbs more weight then the 912 (without the S) but has
>>much better torque / rpm characteristics. http://www.ecofly.de/ According
>>to the German flier magazine "Aerokurier 9/2004" this guy is currently
>>working on a 100 HP version and has plans to install it in to a Europa.
>>Maybe Bruno, the Europa distributor in Germany could shine a bit more
>>light
>>on this one.
>>
>>Graham, Yes, Jim Price is my tech councilor and also looked after Thomas
>>Scherer's bird. He is a very knowledgeable mechanical and electrical
>>engineer and is with me on my wishful dream to go with the lower
>>compression engine. Also I am very interested in the Kremen CS prop.
>>Fortunately I still can wait with the decision of the prop but think that
>>I
>>should order the FWF kit very soon.
>>
>>Michael Grass A266 Trigear, Detroit Mi
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Singleton"
>><graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> To: <europa-list@matronics.com> Subject:
>>Europa-List: Firewall choice and Rotax Engine order options
>>
>>
>>Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
>> >>What
>>makes more sense: To get first the 914 kit and then, if I change my >>mind
>>(means >>I cant afford the 914) upgrade to the 912? Or get the 912 package
>>and have >>left over's? I would hate to buy parts I do not need. If
>>somebody has the >>packing list from both that would be great so I could
>>see what I really >>would >>get from Europa. >> >>The last of the set of
>>questions: >>I know some of you where interested about the Kremen CS Prop.
>>Are there >>any Europas >>Michael Grass >>A266 Trigear, Detroit MI, > >
>>Michael > whose your tech councilor? Jim Price? He was Thomas Scherer's
>>remember > him? > Kremen is the cheapest and looks OK . I like the Arplast
>>(French) still > economical, > 914 is the smoothest engine and is very
>>good
>>at high density altitude. > Plenty of that in the West. > Graham > > >
>>
>>
>>Forums.
>>
>>
>
>
>
Hi friends,
the M160 is a 82 HP 3-Cylinder turbocharched petrol engine from smart
(Mercedes) and comes together with a Fly-Control System, called MIP-System.=20
This is
similar to the Rotax Fly-Dat, but can do much more. It will also prevent the
engine for overheating etc.
The engine drive shaft is operating via a cetrifugal clutch (out of the
motorbice racing business) a very strong tooth-belt and via this a strong made
prop shaft.
Otto Funk, the founder and (still) owner, together with his son of the
microlight planes FK 9, FK 14 etc. has developed the aircraft side of this
=20smart
motor and founded for that the company ecofly.
They have flown a FK 9 with this M160 smart engine more than 1.900 hours and
stripped it down. There was anything like new.
The vibrations are very low and the prop will start to spin, when the engine
runs at about 1.200 rpm.
BUT:
This engine was not good enough for my baby (Monowheel XS).
The Mercedes-Benz tuner BRABUS has upgrated this nice engine to 102 HP.
At present ecofly has one of this engines on test in a FK 9 Mark 4 and will
get two smart-BRABUS engines during January, one for my baby and one for a
Katana!!!
I have supplied ecofly with a front part of the XS and the cowling last
year. They meanwhile have developed/constructed an engine mounting frame for
the
Europa. We think, that we also can use the XS cowling without a lot of big
changes, as the intake openings are similar to the FK 9.
We estimate, that the complete firewall package up to the Prop
flange(engine, mounting frame, cowling, MIP-System and the starter box) will be
available
during spring time this year.
The complete price is not fixed yet, but will be definately by some thousand
dollars or euros below the 912S version.
At present they are using a fix Warp Drive Prop. All changes like adjustable
prop, if Kremen or Warp Drive will be possible and will be the decission of
the builder. Ecofly will offer up to the Prop flange.
But there is still a small problem for me. The engine do not have a direct
drive for a vacuum pump, but there is a belt drive available, normally used
for an air condition pump. But we will solve this point.
When we have made the installation and the first test runs etc. I will
report to whom, who is interested in this really good alternative.
I wish you all a happy successful and stressless new year with a loi of nice
flights.
Kind Regards,
Bruno Reith / Europa Aircraft Distributor
_www.europa-aircraft.de_ (http://www.europa-aircraft.de)
_www.ecofly.de_ (http://www.ecofly.de)
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