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Re: Europa-List: FWF Options

Subject: Re: Europa-List: FWF Options
From: Duncan McFadyean <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:03:48

<<I don't know the weight of
the 912S>>

About 180 lbs on the hook. i.e. with exhaust, rad., water, oil, oil tanks.

Rgds.,
Duncan McF

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: FWF Options


<fklein@orcasonline.com>
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> I can give you some short answers, but would prefer to hear from Neil
> Varcoe; when I get comments on these issues from him, I'll pass them on.
>
> You ask,
>
> > Am I correct in my reading on this option is 75 lbs heavier that the
Rotax?
>
> Alex and Neil say their CAM 125 weighs 231 lbs.; I don't know the weight
of
> the 912S or the 914.
>
> > Doesn't this penalty negate any baggage carrying?
>
> Alex's ship is approved for 1500 lb gross weight.
>
> > I would be interested in what the final cost of an install like this
would
> > save people that are looking at the Rotax.
>
> Though the CAM 125 still retails for US$11,250.00, Firewall Forward Aero
> Engines, Alex Bowman, and Neil Varcoe have incurred significant
development
> costs which, if possible, they would like to recoup if a short "run" of
> Europa installations are produced. Our present effort to get a group
> together to move ahead is the result of some prodding by Tony Renshaw
after
> my postings some months ago. A price for a CAM 125 fwf package is not
known
> at this time. Alex and Neil have said before that they recognise that the
> price would have to be comparable to the Rotax. My hunch is that the
> comparatively low price of the CAM 125 engine will be offset by the
> relatively high cost for the mods, special FG moldings and hardware.
> Personally, I'm attracted more to the prospect of optimal performance and
> trouble-free operation than I am to the possibility of significant cost
> savings over the Rotax.
>
> At this time I have a list of six builders who have expressed an interest
in
> this endeavor; I spoke w/ Bob Masters of FWF today, and he's heard from
two
> more, so I'm optomistic that if the economics work, we'll be going ahead.
>
> BTW, what's your situation vis a vis powerplant?
>
> Fred
>
>
> on 12/27/04 11:29 AM, DuaneFamly@aol.com at DuaneFamly@aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Good morning Fred,
> >
> > Am I correct in my reading on this option is 75 lbs heavier that the
Rotax?
> > Doesn't this penalty negate any baggage carrying? However, I would be
> > interested  in what the final cost of an install like this would save
people
> > that are
> > looking at the Rotax.
> >
> > Mike Duane  A207
> > Redding, California
> > XS Conventional Gear
> > Just about to put the top  on but still finding little things to do
before
> > that.
>
>




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