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Subject: Europa-List: NSI/Subaru MOGAS Clearance
From: Fred R. Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:55:16

> <Tim.Butterworth@CVLUK.COM>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have just bought G-CHEB, a Subaru powered tri-gear.
> Hmmm .... apparently I need to gather information from NSI and evidence of
> these engines running on MOGAS and technical data to support the clearance. I
> guess I can go down the path of finding the stuff I need, but am I the first
> here to do this? What of any other Subaru users perhaps in the States? Do you
> have US clearance information for MOGAS?

Tim, 

I forward the following info from Glenn Crowder gcrowder2@hotmail.com vis a
vis Subarus'; Glenn is not generally on-list, but you might consider
contacting him directly.

>> From: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
>> To: <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Europa w/ Subaru
>> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:09:16 -0800
>> 
>> Hi Glen,
>> 
>> I'm a Europa builder w/o FWF and am curious as to the status of your
>> installation and your degree of satisfaction.
>> 
>> Where are you located?
>> 
>> Fred
>> A194

> Hey Fred!
> I'm based at Erie Tri County 48V just north of Denver, Colorado.  I have
> a Classic monowheel
> that was the first Europa completed in the US.  The original builder flew it
> to Oshkosh in 1996 from
> Atlanta.  He had installed one of the very first NSI Sube conversions and
> had cooling problems and low performance.  He lost the NSI gearbox on the
> way home from Osh but was able to dead stick it
> in to an airport with no damage.  He did not fly the plane after that and I
> bought it in 2000.
> I bought the plane and flew it in Denver for a while but performance and
> cooling were not good
> enough for me.  Top speed was about 130 mph and best climb was about 800 fpm
> solo, 500 with
> a passenger.  I tried some different cooling configurations but I wasn't
> totally happy with it until
> this summer when I finally decided to do the cooling right (I still have to
> repaint the cowling after
> the final duct work).  At the same time I sent the engine to Ram Performance
> Subaru in Clinton Ohio for a power upgrade.  They have a nice website at
> Ramengines.com. Before the upgrade, power was about 90 hp, now dynos at 128.
> I also scrapped the NSI redrive and the NSI CAP 140 prop and went to a
> Marcotte redrive and a Catto fixed pitch 3 bladed prop.  I am now very happy
> with the performance.  Top speed is now a solid 175 mph GPS, 75% power at
> 5000 rpm gives 150-155 mph.  Climb rate solo is 1100 fpm (Field elev is 5190
> ft) and 800 fpm with a 200 lb passenger.  I am 210 lbs.  Aircraft weight is
> 910 lbs empty.  Economy is very good as well.  WOT is 6.2 gph, 75% power is
> 5.2, economy cruise at 4000 rpm is 110 mph and 2.5 gph.  Slow cruise at 3500
> rpm is 100 mph and 2.0 gph!
> I had to make my own motor mount and exhaust system but it was fun and I
> learned a lot.
> Also had to redo the cowling a couple of times until I got the cooling
> right.  I am very happy with
> the plane at this point but I still plan to add a MPFI system (the one Ram
> sells) and a set of
> roller rockers as well as do a fairing around the monowheel.  I think the
> plane can go 10-20 mph
> faster yet with these mods.
> Hows your project going?  I hope you didn't lose a bundle to the Europa
> bust!
> I would recommend staying with the Rotax to get in the air the soonest, but
> I think the Sube
> has the most performance potential.  Ron Carr at Ram has a new version with
> the MPFI fuel
> injection and direct fire ignition that he is getting 160 hp on his dyno.  I
> really feel that is an
> honest figure and am considering upgrading to this engine or at least the
> injection!
> I am happy to answer any other questions, also I have dozens of other
> photos I could
> send if you get interested!  John Lawton in Tennessee is considering the
> Sube as well for his
> XS tri gear.
> 
> Glenn Crowder




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