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Re: Europa-List: Europa Partition and my Conscience.

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Partition and my Conscience.
From: MICHAEL PARKIN <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 20:39:29

Tony,

What planet are you from!!!  A pettition against the new owners of Europa
2004 is the most ludicrous suggestion I have heard for a while.  Unfortunate
as it may be, and there but for the grace of God go all of us, what happened
under EMIL is water under the bridge.  The new management of Europa should
be applauded for trying to get the operation up and running again - NOT
villified for what the previous inept and dubious management did before.
If you bought a used car, would you expect to be held responsible for the
unpaid parking fines of the previous owner - I think not.  Furthermore, if I
were the new owners of Europa, I would take great exception at your
inference that I lacked fairness and honour.

However, as part of the Europa Family, I have the deepest sympathy for those
prospective builders who have ordered kits and have been completely 'ripped
off'.  I totally support the idea of a rescue fund for those who have lost
so much - perhaps we could negotiate with Europa 2004 to supply the missing
parts at cost price to those with genuine claims - it seems to me that some
people
have claimed for more than just missing parts.  I would be happy to
contribute.

regards,

Mike Parkin  (G-JULZ)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Renshaw" <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Europa-List: Europa Partition and my Conscience.


<tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
>
> Gidday,
> At the expense of compromising my continued parts supply from Europa I
> would like to make the following observations.
> Luckily for me I have most of what I need. I really struggle with my
> conscience to think that I can continue my build sourcing the last of the
> bits from Europa 2004 and yet have the knowledge someone else's life dream
> has gone down the toilet. I think we should unite and tell Europa 2004
that
> until the outstanding kit builders have their parts supplied, we are not
> going to support the new company! Simple isn't it, and it gives guys like
> Larry Morgan some hope. There is one other issue, how are we going to pay
> for our bits in the future? Are we going to pay in advance like before,
> prior to delivery? I should think this would be unwise. So, before Europa
> tell us this is the way it is going to be, maybe we should tell Europa
2004
> how we want it, need it.
> In case there are those out there who still are of the view that we should
> keep our heads down and let Europa 2004 get on with it, I haven't received
> a personal e-mail from the company. In today's world this is unacceptable
> not to have received a statement of intent of the new business. Rowland
> Carlson is telling everyone that Europa has lost all of our e-mail
> addresses because of a transfer to broadband. Might I suggest that the
> computers that used to hold those e-mails have been squirrelled away and
> are gone along with their contents. For Europa itself to not be making a
> general broadcast to the list requesting this information suggests
> potential "less than ideal management" already. I want a response to
> whether a partition is appropriate, where everyone including those outside
> the Europa Club can air their collective desire to partition Europa 2004
> for the parts supply outstanding prior to our support. Simple, and fair.
> Doesn't seem to be a lot of fairness and honour any more. Peeves me a tad.
>
>
> At 07:05 AM 9/24/2004, you wrote:
> >
> >Nice to hear that someone is getting some service.  I paid in full for an
> >airplane and this morning was basically told, "tough luck"!!!!! YOU
> >LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >Larry Morgan
> >
> >
>
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
> Sydney Australia
>
> Classic 236  B.B. Taildragger
> Tail, Wings, Ailerons, Flaps Complete and Connected
> Lower Fuse in Jig, and module most recently installed.
> Tail Torque Tube installed.
> Mass Balance assembly installed and deflections sorted
> Roof Panel between doors completed.
> Photos at:
> http://forum.okhuijsen.org/TonyR
> Intended Engine: 912S CS prop (model undecided)
> Instrumentation: Garmin 296 Colour GPS beneath an electronic Artificial
> Horizon, one that I can trust for short periods IMC, to get out of a
sticky
> situation
>
>




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