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Re: Europa_Mail:and WITHOUT PREJUDICE TO THE WRITER.

Subject: Re: Europa_Mail:and WITHOUT PREJUDICE TO THE WRITER.
From: ami mcfadyean <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:19:23
I tried all that you have suggested and more. Result: not a whisper. Count
yourself as very fortunate.

Duncan McFadyean
-----Original Message-----
From: ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Date: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 10:55 AM
Subject: FW: Europa_Mail:and WITHOUT PREJUDICE TO THE WRITER.


>.Hi! Everyone,
>At the expense of further raised eyebrows in my direction I 'patch' the
>following on for your digest.
>I find my experiences completely at odds with all the allegations , and I
>publish this in the public spiritedness  of a Europa Club Member for the
>benefit of  trying to get the situation resolved for the common benefit of
>all. I certainly clearly understood from John Bourne that deliveries would
>be at a rate and time to suit my build , could it be that this is their
true
>intent ?
>I have no axe  to grind with any one on the issue for or against  Goldwing.
>IMHO I feel that everyone would have a much easier time if you made a final
>reasonable approach to them to establish final instructions/request ,try it
>by e-mail ,I got this reply within 15 hours! And I don't think I'm a "soft
>touch either"! I paid a good price for extended delivery , changed the
>length of wires requested a few times , didn't go for wing strobes , just
>fin mount and belly mount, called for wingtip lenses early on,  then after
I
>'cocked up' the shaping of one asked for another pair for a small
additional
>price they came quickly.
>I'm therefore dropping out of this debate from here on in and what's more I
>REFUSE TO BE EMBARRASSED ANY MORE !!!!!!
>Regards
>Bob Harrison Kit 337 Europa /Jabiru 3300 G-PTAG
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Subject: Re: Combined operation of trim and flaps from panel
>and P1 Control Stick.
>
>Hi Bob..
>We are just back from a break, and admiring the creativity of many people;
>be they current customers or not. I will not go into details, but from what
>I see, the whole scenario of this soap takes root with Rob Houseman, who
>seems prone to writing emails to us in an angry tone, without asking for
any
>particular help, while on the other hand, opening his heart to the wider
>community, on the details of his queries, which could be much easier
>answered by ourselves. As for closing down, etc.. That is just some of that
>stuff, none of us likes to walk in while walking in the countryside... We
>are still supporting our customers, addressing deliveries by common
>agreement and according to priority. We never were an off the shelf
company,
>and will never be. The reason being that as our customers build their plane
>parts, they often change their mind on the way they wish to effect mounting
>and or configuration.. We show flexibility and alter the orders
accordingly,
>(some of those who are creating the rash and will remain unnamed are
>potential record holders for changing system specs several times on the
>way). But we do not mind, we much prefer the serious builder to have
>complete satifaction with the finished item, rather than a misfitting off
>the shelf item. As for demands for electronics, all builders who have
>completed their aircraft and have fitted one of our kits, have gone on the
>tarmac with the complete system. We purposefully avoid despatching
>electronics early, as in spite of the warnings printed on our litterature,
>many people have an urge to "Bench test" their system, we are allergic to
>this, as we have had to repair/replace many units in the early life of the
>company as units were destroyed by inadequat power supplies, reverse
>polarity connections, coiled strobe cables etc..
>We will be reading the flack mail rash with interest and accordingly
publish
>a collective answer in the near future..
>You are the only person so far, who has taken the trouble to write to us
>directly, and we very much thank you for that. Please feel free to ask any
>questions you may have, and we will endeavour to give satisfactory answers.
>Thanking you again, we remain,
>Yours sincerely.
>Yvan
>----- Original Message -----
From: <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
>Subject: RE: Combined operation of trim and flaps from panel
> and P1 Control Stick.
>
>
>> Hi! YVAN.
>> Back on St. Valentines day you e-mailed me about a problem I had, However
>I
>> got it resolved the next day so didn't take up your offer.
>> I'm just contacting you now since there is a "lot of flack" about
Goldwing
>> and failure to deliver to Europa  homebuild people.
>> I did a lot of recommending about your company and the strobe kit, so I'm
>> keeping my head down but feeling quite embarrassed about the predicament
a
>> lot of my colleagues appear to be in.
>> The least I would like is to know what has gone wrong ? and what is
likely
>> as a remedy to those who are now being let down.?
>> Regards
>> Bob Harrison.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Subject: Re: Combined operation of trim and flaps from panel
>> and P1 Control Stick.
>>
>> I would be pleased to oblige you with a suitable circuit diagram, if you
>> would forward your existing system information in scanned form to this
>> address...
>> Regards..
>> Yvan
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
>> Cc: <nuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
>> Subject: Combined operation of trim and flaps from panel and
> P1
>> Control Stick.
>>
>>
>> > Hi! Folks.
>> > A bit of help for a "Bo Bo" on electrics, perhaps?
>> > I unwittingly embarked on the plan to have the two options available at
>> all
>> > times in my naivety !!! So now I have a system using a Europa supplied
>> DPDT
>> > switch for the flaps on the  panel and a Europa MAC rocker switch on
the
>> > panel for the trim which surprisingly work complete with their LED
>lights.
>> !
>> > Then I have  MAC G1 P1 Stick grip which I'm told has effectively two
>SPDT
>> > switches for each operation which even more surprisingly works !!!! BUT
>> when
>> > I couple the two systems together I blow fuses , which isn,t surprising
>> > either !!! Since both systems reverse the motor polarity to change
>> direction
>> > of the motor it's highly likely that the polarity problem grounds the
>> supply
>> > through the common wiring on the stick?
>> > So what I need is some "magic gismo" to correct this problem (sorry I
>> nearly
>> > used the word rectify!) or do I have to settle for an EITHER /OR Switch
>> > (that is to say either Panel switch does the jobs or the Stick does the
>> > jobs ?)
>> > If anyone has a solution please let me know , but don't forget to keep
>the
>> > jargon simple for a simpleton !!!!
>> > Regards
>> > Bob Harrison Kit 337 Europa/Jabiru3300 G-PTAG
>> > PS. Any Jabiru 3300 Fans about will need to know there is a fuel pump
>mod
>> > just emerging from the "bush" .It has been established that the
>mechanical
>> > pump is overpressuring the float chamber for slow running . This should
>> make
>> > for considerably more efficient fuel consumption.?????!!!
>> >
>>
>>
>
>



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