Re: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty

[ALAN YERLY <budyerly@msn.com>]

Craig...
Once open a year.  The Huntsman product paperwork I have says 1 year, 
but I use it up to 3 if closed and stored properly.  The problem is with 
the hardener.  It makes a slime top if not properly stored, even 
unopened.
We are held hostage by Huntsman over here.
Woe are we.

Bud
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: craig bastin<mailto:craigb@onthenet.com.au> 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
  Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:58 PM
  Subject: RE: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty


  I dont know about your expiry times Bud, Are you sure they are sending 
you new batches.
  Like you I am forced to buy the six quart cases and the last one I 
got, 
  new from the australian distributor in september 07 and it is quoting 
an expiry of june 2010
  price was much the same $1280 a case of 6

  craig
    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ALAN YERLY
    Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 4:14 AM
    To: europa-list@matronics.com
    Subject: Re: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty


    Roger, and other Europa Builders in need of Redux also known as 
Araldite 420 or Epibond 420 A/B.  

    I order Redux in cases direct through my long time distributor TAPE. 
 As there is no other acceptable substitute for Redux, for the Europa 
and as a result I am still buying it in bulk and shipping it.  I have 
looked for substitutes, and many epoxies are as strong, but none as 
ductile or willing to be used in aircraft.

    I have been informed by my US distributor of Epibond 420 A/B (Redux) 
that the manufacturer, Huntsman Products in California, has restructured 
their pricing and packaging.   I have been in contact with my 
distributor and Huntsman over the last four months trying to resolve the 
issue.  Gladly, Huntsman has at least changed their policy and have 
agreed to distribute Epibond 420 in 6 quart cases again.  Unfortunately, 
Huntsman has nearly doubled the price per case with no significant bulk 
discounts available for multiple cases.    I've researched importing 
fresh Redux from overseas and it is slightly more costly due to the weak 
dollar and high shipping/hazardous fees.

    If I order soon, and I can still combine with other distributors I 
can get 6 quarts for about $280 a quart plus shipping to you (typically 
$20).  Yes, I know that is $120 more than last year.  Airbus is the 
primary user so if anyone knows someone at Airbus that can steal you 
some and smuggle it into the states, we are stuck with some pretty ugly 
prices.  

    Delivery is 30-45 days to me so it will all be a fresh batch.  Shelf 
life is a year opened or unopened but usually good for at least two if 
unopened.

    I have tentative orders for 2-3 quarts so far.  I need three others.

    Bud Yerly
    Custom Flight Creations
    Europa Distributor 
    Cell 813-244-8354
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Roger Lowe<mailto:rlowe@speedway.ca> 
      To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
      Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:09 PM
      Subject: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty


<rlowe@speedway.ca<mailto:rlowe@speedway.ca>>

      Everyone,

      Has anyone been able to source Araldite 420 and Araldite 2102 
(rapid epoxy) in the US or Canada? If you have, can you forward me their 
contact information. 

      The stuff from my partially completed kit that I have purchased 
has expired. The stuff I believe is classified as hazardous material for 
shipping and I'm in Canada so I'll need to find out if the vendor can 
ship it here too.

      OR

      Is there an "approved" alternative that can be used that is 
readily available in US or Canada?

      Thanks,

      Roger Lowe
      A252


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