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RE: Europa-List: Re: Post curing response

Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Post curing response
From: Michael Gregory <m.j.gregory@talk21.com>
Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 13:02:21
A word of caution for those post-curing flying surfaces with blue foam 
cores: stick to the upper temperature limit of 50C in the Europa Build 
Manual quoted below. While the Gurit datasheets for Ampreg 20 and 21 to

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 
<owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of Kelvin Weston
Sent: 29 May 2020 15:35
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Post curing response


Gents

The Europa Build Manual calls for a post-cure, see Chapter 37, Page 2, whic
h 
states:

"The first thing that you need to do with your flying surfaces is post-cure

them at a temperature between 40 - 50C.=C2- This will improve their stren
gth 
and cook off any remaining volatiles and moisture within the epoxy system.
Make a simple oven with foam blocks, timber or sheets and an electric fan

heater and cure your flying surfaces for 8-10 hours.
Do take care not to get them too hot and make sure that they are fully 
supported."

The Ampreg 20 and 21 datasheets from Gurit shows an initial cure at a 
minimum of 18C (ideally 24hrs at 21C) followed by an elevated post-cure of 
5 
hours at 70 - 80C or 16 hours at 50C.

The datasheet also states:
=C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93The post-cure need not be carried out immediately afte
r laminating. It is 
possible to assemble several composite components and post-cure the entire

assembly together. It is recommended, however, that elevated temperature 
curing should be completed before any further painting / finishing 
operations.
Furthermore, care should be taken to adequately support the laminate if it

is to be post-cured after demoulding, and the laminate must be allowed to

cool before the support is removed.
When post-curing it is recommended to use a ramp rate of 10 degC/hour when

heating from ambient to the post-cure temperature, to ensure that the 
thermal performance of the laminate stays ahead of the oven temperature. 
Higher ramp rates may result in the resin softening and distortion of the

part.=C3=A2=82=AC=EF=BD

The resulting specs with standard hardener for Ampreg 20, 21 and 30 are all

very similar and result in a Tg of around:
58C - Room temperature cure (28 days at 21C) 73C - Elevated post cure (16hr
s 
at 50C)

The ultimate Tg for Ampreg 20 and 30 is stated as around 98C.=C2- Ampreg 
21 was 
slightly lower at 91C

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Regards

Kelv Weston
Kit 497
kelv@kdweston.biz


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