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Subject: Re: Europa-List: unusable fuel
From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 23:45:04

PS. I wouldn't expect you to take EASA too seriously, but for what it is
worth I have just checked their CS-VLA 959, which holds forth on the
subject of unusable fuel, and it says it must be checked for each tank
in the most adverse conditions likely to be encountered, so the EU is on
your side! David 

On 2017-08-24 23:22, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote: 

> Bob, No of course not but I do not plan to ever be on final with anything like
an empty tank! It seems to me there are two very different things here - 
unusable
fuel and how anyone sensibly manages his fuel. Unusable fuel is pretty much
what it says on the label and this side of the pond its only practical 
consequence
was that the LAA want a figure for it and want it included in the 'ready
for service' or empty weight. That apart I am all in favour of gauges telling
the true figure of what fuel you have in the tank. Very few would want to
work out in flight how much fuel is actually useable or not. We all surely 
always
operate with sensible reserves. In fact a fair number of my aquaintances have
never had to use the reserve tank and are rightly proud of themselves. In
addition the large majority of my take offs and probably those of my friends are
with a full tank - this partly because much of my flying is touring, doing
longish stints, but also because I still have a linge

 ring
memory of being taught that you should always fill the tank before putting the
plane away so as to discourage air cooling in the tank and depositing small 
amounts
of water. 
> 
> Regards, David 
> 
> On 2017-08-24 21:21, Robert Borger wrote: 
> David, 
> 
> Will that be enough petrol on board if you are on short final at an 
> uncontrolled
field and someone pulls out onto the runway and you have to go around?
> 
> Best regards, 
> Robert Borger, President 
> Geowhiziks & Doodlebugging, Inc. 
> Certified Petroleum Geophysicist AAPG#101 
> 3705 Lynchburg Dr. 
> Corinth, TX 76208-5331 
> (C) 817-992-1117 
> Sent from my iPad 
> 
> On Aug 24, 2017, at 14:15, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote:
> 
> Fred/Bob, That's an entirely reasonable approach since the front end fuel 
> outlets
make it the most critical attitude. However it only really applies to those
who would contemplate seeing if they can take off with +/- empty tanks. It
seems to me much more practicable to go with the cruise attitude, where I guess
99% of fuel starvation happens. So door sill level would be my recommendation.

> 
> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ 
> 
> On 2017-08-24 18:34, Robert Borger wrote: 
> 
> 
> Fred, 
> 
> I'd recommend takeoff & climb out attitude as that would be the most critical
and when you'd be most likely to uncover the tank outlet. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 24, 2017, at 09:55, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Could someone please tell me what the proper attitude of an XS Mono is when 
> determining
the amount of "unusable fuel" on board?
> 
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