Hi! William.
The question initially has revolved around the length of the control
stick and loads needed when out of maximum trim.
My issue was nothing to do with the trim motor, however in your position
you should plan the securing of it so that you would be able to remove
it in an unlikely eventuality of failure because when the top is on it
is a bastard to access. However recently there was much chat about the
plastic clevises needing 1/8=9D removed from their threaded ends
before linking them with the brass threaded rod to facilitate more
movement of the trim and stabilators on final inspection.( Hopefully you
picked up on that ?)
My trim reversal problem was not to do with the trim motor but the relay
deck it had an inherent fault which became masked once the motor had
travelled to full trim and I had numerous major debates with the
Menzemer chaps always culminating in them alleging my wiring was at
fault. Until one day I had yet another event and when I contacted them I
discovered that they were now supplying the MARK II relay deck which is
faultless but of different shape also making it an arse to shift things
around on the back of the panel.
You need to shout out on the Europa Club pages as to how many others
have had this problem and then probably =9Cbite the
bullet=9D and get the MARK II fitted and done with it.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Daniell
Sent: 10 June 2014 14:50
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stick Grips
Thanks...but you had a runaway trim? if is was a particular model I am
wondering whether I shd change my trim motor (Mac) prior to putting the
top on (I cant imgaine this is much fun with the top on!)
William Daniell
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Bob Harrison <ptag.dev@talktalk.net>
wrote:
Hi! William
................Just don=99t shorten the control stick ......use
the bent one and fix it by rotating it to best position.
Regards
Bob Harrison.
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Daniell
Sent: 10 June 2014 13:20
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stick Grips
whassat....Bob I dont remember that issue can you enlighten on the trim
issue please
Will
William Daniell
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Lance Sandford <sandford@melbpc.org.au>
wrote:
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Bob
Thanks Bob. That is about what I suspected.
Regards
Lance Sandford
On 10/06/14 18:09, Bob Harrison wrote:
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Answer:- NO SHORTER WHATEVER. TO LAND FULLY NOSE UP TRIM IT WOULD BE
Extremely difficult on your own ! but power assisted by the passenger
probably ! But the extreme loads are a question over the mechanical
strengths of the linkages ! When I had to go to fully trimmed up to get
the damn relay deck to reverse it was easier to let it go fully nose up
trim and pray the deck would let itself reverse when it got to the end
of travel. Been there done that when Menzimer was insisting my problem
was wiring when in actual fact they eventually discovered that the end
of the travel by the relay masked the actual problem in the relay .
Since I fitted the MARK II relay deck never a problem !!!!!
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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Question for those who have test flown their Europa.
How far can you shorten the control stick and still comfortably land the
aircraft with the stabilizer stuck at full travel in either direction ,
without being Superman?
Lance Sandford
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