On 14 Oct 2013, at 17:35, Alan Carter wrote:
>
> Hi, Found it.
> 1.1 It is often thought that flying training is not permitted in private
> aircraft,
or at least that only a limited amount of training is allowed. In
> fact, there is no restriction on training in private aircraft, but as with any
activity in an aircraft that is normally only used for private recreational
> purposes there are restrictions on what can be paid1 for in relation to the
> flight.
> 1.2 The basic position is that if someone pays for something in relation to a
flight, the flight is no longer private, but either aerial work,
> public transport or commercial air transport. Aircraft that operate under a
> Certificate
of Airworthiness (CofA) and are only maintained to a
> standard appropriate for private use or aircraft that operate under a Permit
to Fly (hereafter jointly referred to as 'private aircraft') can only
> be used for private flights.
>
> Then it goes on further down to this.
>
> Note: Training for the initial issue of an NPPL, PPL, CPL, IMC Rating,
> Instrument
Rating or other 'ab initio' training is not permitted. The
> intention is to allow individuals to pay for training that enables them to
> regain
currency, renew a licence, learn a new skill (such as
> short field landings) or become familiar with a new type etc.
>
> I never understand the wording of these things, But to me it looks like you
> can't,,
I think I will go along with that, unless someone tells me different..
Alan - the note "further down" refers only to the joint ownership paragraphs
(the
same note appears twice, first in section 4.3 and then in section 4.4); there
is no such note in Section 3. I agree that it's easy to get confused, but
careful
reading is rewarded by a measure of understanding.
Have another look at Annex A (the flowchart). If you are a sole owner you finish
up in the central box where NO conditions are stipulated. If the aircraft is
in joint ownership you finish up in one of the other boxes which includes
Condition
A - "Training must not be towards the grant of a licence or a rating in
a licence".
I'm not sure why this difference is made - perhaps it's to prevent a
group-ownership
scheme setting up as an unregulated flying school.
in friendship
Rowland
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